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    Let's Talk About MSU Football Changes

    1. LED LIGHTS!!! Looking forward to seeing them. Hoping that retrofitting was the right move and not something we regret 5 years from now. Glad they are there regardless.

    2. Money being raised for an IPF!!! Not sure what the ETA is on it but it's coming.

    3. Faculty has to pay a seat license now! Well it's better than nothing.

    4. Price of tickets increasing. I'm good with it as long as the money is invested well in NIL and the football program as a whole.

    5. The new media team is noticeably better. Looking forward to as much content as possible.

    Wishlist and questions I have:

    1. What is MSU doing to increase their recruiting presence in football? This has been a major issues since Sherrill left.

    2. Bring back the interlocking MSU uniforms as the primary!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    1. LED LIGHTS!!! Looking forward to seeing them. Hoping that retrofitting was the right move and not something we regret 5 years from now. Glad they are there regardless.
    I haven't yet read how much this costs, but did we have any night games last year? I went to all home games, but don't remember any. A mid afternoon late fall game may have bleed over into dark? Unless we're going to start using that stadium for other events, I'd probably put that money into the sound system(s) and hiring better folks to plan and operate game day ops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    I haven't yet read how much this costs, but did we have any night games last year? I went to all home games, but don't remember any. A mid afternoon late fall game may have bleed over into dark? Unless we're going to start using that stadium for other events, I'd probably put that money into the sound system(s) and hiring better folks to plan and operate game day ops.
    Our first two home games were night games(EKU & Toledo).
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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    I haven't yet read how much this costs, but did we have any night games last year? I went to all home games, but don't remember any. A mid afternoon late fall game may have bleed over into dark? Unless we're going to start using that stadium for other events, I'd probably put that money into the sound system(s) and hiring better folks to plan and operate game day ops.
    We did have at least one mid afternoon game that I can recall.

    We need to put money into everything- management, sound, and lights.

    I think having a better environment with lights and stuff may lend itself into getting us more night games potentially.

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    What is a seat license?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StateDawg44 View Post
    What is a seat license?
    I believe that is the Bulldog Club donation to get the seat.

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    Absolutely need the lights and sound system updated! Media dept. I hope is much better! But we needed to make it more affordable to attend football games not cost more... (I cant afford to attend games anymore with my family ). I hope we stay with the current script state logo! The old interlocking or MSJ helmets can be just for a throwback uni in 1 game a season for me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    Our first two home games were night games(EKU & Toledo).
    Oh crap, I blocked out Toledo, I guess that's how my mind dealt with the trauma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    1. LED LIGHTS!!! Looking forward to seeing them. Hoping that retrofitting was the right move and not something we regret 5 years from now. Glad they are there regardless.

    2. Money being raised for an IPF!!! Not sure what the ETA is on it but it's coming.

    3. Faculty has to pay a seat license now! Well it's better than nothing.

    4. Price of tickets increasing. I'm good with it as long as the money is invested well in NIL and the football program as a whole.

    5. The new media team is noticeably better. Looking forward to as much content as possible.

    Wishlist and questions I have:

    1. What is MSU doing to increase their recruiting presence in football? This has been a major issues since Sherrill left.

    2. Bring back the interlocking MSU uniforms as the primary!!!!

    Agree with everyting except the interlocking MSU. While I have great memories of the interlocking MSU teams, branding ourselves across the country as "State" is the smart marketing move. My sons and their friends all love the Script State and that's what they want on the merch we buy them. The interlocling MSU to them is "neat" but nothing more. It's like the flying M when I was growing up. My Dad loved it but it didn't mean anything to me really.

    Lastely, there was a major college football twitter poll this past season, sorry, I don't recall who now, that had a twitter poll asking when you hear MSU who do you think of, Mississippi State or Michigan State? It was overwhelmelingly Michigan State. Tying our branding identity to "MSU" is a losing battle and I think administration knows that and has probably been advised so.
    Just my two cents.

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    For some reason Cohen did his best to ruin game days at Davis wade. We haven?t recovered from it. If Keenum was worth his salt he would fix it, but he is too busy not holding others accountable and being lazy to handle it

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtowndawg View Post
    Agree with everyting except the interlocking MSU. While I have great memories of the interlocking MSU teams, branding ourselves across the country as "State" is the smart marketing move. My sons and their friends all love the Script State and that's what they want on the merch we buy them. The interlocling MSU to them is "neat" but nothing more. It's like the flying M when I was growing up. My Dad loved it but it didn't mean anything to me really.

    Lastely, there was a major college football twitter poll this past season, sorry, I don't recall who now, that had a twitter poll asking when you hear MSU who do you think of, Mississippi State or Michigan State? It was overwhelmelingly Michigan State. Tying our branding identity to "MSU" is a losing battle and I think administration knows that and has probably been advised so.
    Just my two cents.
    If we want to recruit nationally, I think this is correct. I do think regionally, MSU means Mississippi State. We need to be a staple on the rankings for about 5 years. Now is the time to do that. The SEC will never be as strong as it was pre-NIL

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtowndawg View Post
    Agree with everyting except the interlocking MSU. While I have great memories of the interlocking MSU teams, branding ourselves across the country as "State" is the smart marketing move. My sons and their friends all love the Script State and that's what they want on the merch we buy them. The interlocling MSU to them is "neat" but nothing more. It's like the flying M when I was growing up. My Dad loved it but it didn't mean anything to me really.

    Lastely, there was a major college football twitter poll this past season, sorry, I don't recall who now, that had a twitter poll asking when you hear MSU who do you think of, Mississippi State or Michigan State? It was overwhelmelingly Michigan State. Tying our branding identity to "MSU" is a losing battle and I think administration knows that and has probably been advised so.
    Just my two cents.
    Disagree on the interlocking MSU. I see wayyyyyyy more interlocking MSU merch amongst the young crowd than I do the Script state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msu15 View Post
    Disagree on the interlocking MSU. I see wayyyyyyy more interlocking MSU merch amongst the young crowd than I do the Script state.
    Correct. It's not just older people who like the interlocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Correct. It's not just older people who like the interlocking
    Being apart of the younger crowd it is overwhelming preferred by most with the script being a solid secondary logo

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    why in the hell are grown men so damn excited about LED lights? Its freaking sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtowndawg View Post
    Agree with everyting except the interlocking MSU. While I have great memories of the interlocking MSU teams, branding ourselves across the country as "State" is the smart marketing move. My sons and their friends all love the Script State and that's what they want on the merch we buy them. The interlocling MSU to them is "neat" but nothing more. It's like the flying M when I was growing up. My Dad loved it but it didn't mean anything to me really.

    Lastely, there was a major college football twitter poll this past season, sorry, I don't recall who now, that had a twitter poll asking when you hear MSU who do you think of, Mississippi State or Michigan State? It was overwhelmelingly Michigan State. Tying our branding identity to "MSU" is a losing battle and I think administration knows that and has probably been advised so.
    Just my two cents.
    Polls are like buttholes. Who was polled? You ask anyone in SEC country and it ain't Mich St.

    The youngsters like anything new and look at anything old and not good. But I've talked to lot of young people who prefer the MSU too. Smart marketing move based on what?

    I just don't see data on the best move but by history, looks, etc. MSU looks the best. Bama brand helmet is old but it is linked to Bear winning. Same as MSU. Saban should have changed theirs to Bama on the helmet making the State logic.

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    I think the biggest change that needs to be made is the gameday layout. Starting 30 mins before kickoff all the way to the Alma mater, you can pick a time in the game and know from memory what will be happening. It has become so stale and boring.

    We need to do a refresh on all of it. As part of that, don?t script out the whole damn game. Have some down time and when organic things happen from the fans: you scrap whatever you had planned.

    Take a page out of banana ball as well and create a fans first mentality. I?m so not excited about going to games next year because it will be the same thing as the last 4 to 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckdog View Post
    why in the hell are grown men so damn excited about LED lights? Its freaking sad
    No idea. It became the "it" thing to complain about.

    Dak vs AU atmosphere was pretty good without the lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duckdog View Post
    why in the hell are grown men so damn excited about LED lights? Its freaking sad
    So you're the guy telling people to sit down at basketball games.

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    I'm more mad at how bad the sound system is. It's embarrassing

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