Allstate Insurance

[Pancho]

My agent has received my text concerning Allstate not aligning with certain viewpoints. I am looking into a more American provider now.

[AROB44]

I thought Allstate was an American company. What did I miss?

[DownwardDawg]

What is this about??

[Pancho]

Did you see the all state commercial special made for the sugar bowl?

[DownwardDawg]

Did you see the all state commercial special made for the sugar bowl?

No. I did not. At work so I just glanced at the game when I could. Never paid attention to the commercials. TV in my office was muted.

[StarkVegasSteve]

It's in regards to the Allstate message before the Sugar Bowl. He basically was calling out Americans and making it sound like their fault that some crazed brain washed ISIS lunatic committed an act of terror on Tuesday night. Said Americans need to "overcome their addiction to divisiveness" and "accept people's differences". It was a god awful message and whoever told him to put that out should be fired on the damn spot. I can't believe there wasn't a hand raise guy somewhere along the chain of command for that message that wasn't like, "Hey guys, maybe let's not do this. Maybe let's just say our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and the city of New Orleans and will be in the weeks and months to come." Literally the easiest statement to make.

[Pancho]

They tell us to keep politics out of sports and enjoy it but with ESPN and now this woke all state commercial, they are shoving a political stance down our throats.

[Santiago]

It's in regards to the Allstate message before the Sugar Bowl. He basically was calling out Americans and making it sound like their fault that some crazed brain washed ISIS lunatic committed an act of terror on Tuesday night. Said Americans need to "overcome their addiction to divisiveness" and "accept people's differences". It was a god awful message and whoever told him to put that out should be fired on the damn spot. I can't believe there wasn't a hand raise guy somewhere along the chain of command for that message that wasn't like, "Hey guys, maybe let's not do this. Maybe let's just say our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and the city of New Orleans and will be in the weeks and months to come." Literally the easiest statement to make.

I totally agree. It causes speculation also, the group think in their company that no one did raise their hand. It looks like that line of thinking is so strong in their leadership, that anyone that might have wanted to raise their hand did not out of fear of their job.

[Johnson85]

I totally agree. It causes speculation also, the group think in their company that no one did raise their hand. It looks like that line of thinking is so strong in their leadership, that anyone that might have wanted to raise their hand did not out of fear of their job.

Yup. Just coming up with that statement was a colossal 17-up. What kind of person sees that there is a terrorist tack by somebody brainwashed with ISIS propaganda and has the immediate reaction of "Damn americans and their addiction to divisiveness" or that the terrorist killed 14 people because Americans are unwilling to accept people's imperfections and differences. That said, smart and competent people say and do stupid things all the time and the stupidity in proposing this statement is forgiveable. But having a culture where this was vetted and everybody was either too scared or similarly stupid is a colossal leadership failure. The board should immediately do an investigation as to how this statement made it onto the air.

[Commercecomet24]

Yup. Just coming up with that statement was a colossal 17-up. What kind of person sees that there is a terrorist tack by somebody brainwashed with ISIS propaganda and has the immediate reaction of "Damn americans and their addiction to divisiveness" or that the terrorist killed 14 people because Americans are unwilling to accept people's imperfections and differences. That said, smart and competent people say and do stupid things all the time and the stupidity in proposing this statement is forgiveable. But having a culture where this was vetted and everybody was either too scared or similarly stupid is a colossal leadership failure. The board should immediately do an investigation as to how this statement made it onto the air.

Excellent rational post! Yeah someone gonna have to fall on the sword for that one. The idea should've been shotdown pretty quick but I'm guessing one of the big dogs came up with the idea and everyone was to scared to challenge it.

[viverlibre]

I totally agree. It causes speculation also, the group think in their company that no one did raise their hand. It looks like that line of thinking is so strong in their leadership, that anyone that might have wanted to raise their hand did not out of fear of their job.

The "yes" culture has permiated the military and governmental agencies. I suspect the same for corp. America. Two main reasons, top leaders don't create a culture of wanting subordinates to speak up and "careerism."

[msudawglb]

The "yes" culture has permiated the military and governmental agencies. I suspect the same for corp. America. Two main reasons, top leaders don't create a culture of wanting subordinates to speak up and "careerism."

Well, seeing as how I work for a government agency, and I have to sit through mandatory training yearly that encourages us to speak out with our thoughts toward decision making, I'll shoot down the quoted post above.

[Johnson85]

Well, seeing as how I work for a government agency, and I have to sit through mandatory training yearly that encourages us to speak out with our thoughts toward decision making, I'll shoot down the quoted post above.

That means next to nothing. Employees are going to speak up or not based on the consequences of speaking out when it's not what their higherups want to hear.

Not saying the agency you work for doesn't actually want people to speak out. But having mandatory training on it is just as likely to be indicative of having a culture that doesn't reward speaking out (but having somebody that at least in theory wants that to cahnge, if not in practice) as it is to be indicative of a culture that actually reward, or at least not punish for, speaking out.

[Lord McBuckethead]

It was the correct message. They are correct.

[RocketDawg]

It's in regards to the Allstate message before the Sugar Bowl. He basically was calling out Americans and making it sound like their fault that some crazed brain washed ISIS lunatic committed an act of terror on Tuesday night. Said Americans need to "overcome their addiction to divisiveness" and "accept people's differences". It was a god awful message and whoever told him to put that out should be fired on the damn spot. I can't believe there wasn't a hand raise guy somewhere along the chain of command for that message that wasn't like, "Hey guys, maybe let's not do this. Maybe let's just say our thoughts and prayers are with the victims and the city of New Orleans and will be in the weeks and months to come." Literally the easiest statement to make.

Not defending Allstate - but I suspect his "message" was done before the New Orleans massacre and they just decided to run with it, along with a few words in sympathy at the start that were just added on. They never should have done what the did.

[Pancho]

AllState is losing customers as we speak.

[StarkVegasSteve]

My agent has received my text concerning Allstate not aligning with certain viewpoints. I am looking into a more American provider now.

I'm not sure your agent should really be getting the wrath on that one. I doubt he was consulted on the messaging before it went out. I'm sure he probably was like 85% of all the other people who sell Allstate. They probably all said, "Oh 17. This is going to cost me some business."

[Coach34]

Sux for the local guys- but the only way to make these people understand is to cost them business. Bud Light learned their lesson. Others are as well.

[Tater]

Sux for the local guys- but the only way to make these people understand is to cost them business. Bud Light learned their lesson. Others are as well.

Just chiming in with an extremely loud incorrect buzzer.

BUD the year and a half before the commercial had stock price fluctuation from $44 to $67 (with the peak week of $67 being right when the commercial was released, which had more to do with hedge funds making money against the general public). BUD the year and a half after the commercial has had price fluctuation between $49 and $68 with the peak week being May this year though it did scrape $66 right during the start of NFL playoffs last season.

AB InBev owns more than Bud Light. It was hilarious to see people boycott Bud Light by going to Michelob, Miller, Modelo, etc. People have no idea who actually owns which beer anymore and the point is it's gotten so murky that AB owned all 3 of those at different points (yes i know they sold miller to Coors - but do you? does the general public know?). Boycotting AB would take someone just boycotting beer altogether to be safe which obviously wasn't happening. Bud Light was back in the hands of people spouting to boycott it less than 6 months later (Kid Rock being the most notable).

It's like if someone was mad and wanted to boycott the Pepsi Kardashian girl commercial, they would have to boycott eating doritos, cheetos, lays, and quaker oats too.

Or if you think Nestle's water bottling practices are abhorrent then you'd have to stop getting gerber for your baby and purina for your fur baby.

If this sounds exhausting, that's the point. Americans have lost the ability to truly boycott big brands by having an illusion of choice.

AllState and Progressive largest shareholders are the same group: Vanguard. Was this a calculated decision thinking that they wanted to buy up more AllState stock in a month when they sell off the boom Progressive will see? People will forget about this in six months and AllState will rebound. People forgot about how little they donate for the good hands program and just ignored when they stopped showing the number after they were shamed on how low it is.

But hey what do I know, I'm not a genius message board poster who thinks "Bud Light" is the one who needed a lesson learned by switching to Modelo.

[viverlibre]

Just chiming in with an extremely loud incorrect buzzer.

BUD the year and a half before the commercial had stock price fluctuation from $44 to $67 (with the peak week of $67 being right when the commercial was released, which had more to do with hedge funds making money against the general public). BUD the year and a half after the commercial has had price fluctuation between $49 and $68 with the peak week being May this year though it did scrape $66 right during the start of NFL playoffs last season.

AB InBev owns more than Bud Light. It was hilarious to see people boycott Bud Light by going to Michelob, Miller, Modelo, etc. People have no idea who actually owns which beer anymore and the point is it's gotten so murky that AB owned all 3 of those at different points (yes i know they sold miller to Coors - but do you? does the general public know?). Boycotting AB would take someone just boycotting beer altogether to be safe which obviously wasn't happening. Bud Light was back in the hands of people spouting to boycott it less than 6 months later (Kid Rock being the most notable).

It's like if someone was mad and wanted to boycott the Pepsi Kardashian girl commercial, they would have to boycott eating doritos, cheetos, lays, and quaker oats too.

Or if you think Nestle's water bottling practices are abhorrent then you'd have to stop getting gerber for your baby and purina for your fur baby.

If this sounds exhausting, that's the point. Americans have lost the ability to truly boycott big brands by having an illusion of choice.

AllState and Progressive largest shareholders are the same group: Vanguard. Was this a calculated decision thinking that they wanted to buy up more AllState stock in a month when they sell off the boom Progressive will see? People will forget about this in six months and AllState will rebound. People forgot about how little they donate for the good hands program and just ignored when they stopped showing the number after they were shamed on how low it is.

But hey what do I know, I'm not a genius message board poster who thinks "Bud Light" is the one who needed a lesson learned by switching to Modelo.

I've always wondered if that was a PSYOP, like the coke/new coke deal, to bring stock prices down so execs could buy back at a low price.