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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
So just looked at it. TN had 8 guys drafted, LSU 7. Then we're in a 6 way tie for 3rd with Arky, Vandy, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, and Florida state.
Pretty rough to just use this, but we certainly had to 10-15 range talent. Which is great that Lemo got them here (though the Pitchers were on Fox), but not so great that he couldn't make it out of a regional.
Doesn't really matter. Everyone agrees he's gotta win next year
So in the same talent range as #1 knocked out by #4 Arky, 2 and q 2 seed Vandy; #1 knocked out by #3 Oklahoma; #1 knocked out by #3 OSU; and a CWS team.
Again, it shows how drafted talent is not necessarily a marker for how you do in the post season.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
A year ago, the narrative was that Fox handled everything pitching, so Lemo wasn't responsible for any issues there. Now, our success in pitching is proof Lemo is a good recruiter. Can't have it both ways
More to the point, finishing 5th in the SEC is fine, but not wining a regional was an underperformance. There are not 16 teams with more players drafted.
We had no hitters or bullpen. We were a one trick pony and our saddle was on our starting pitching.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
We had no hitters or bullpen. We were a one trick pony and our saddle was on our starting pitching.
Exactly
We have now had 8 players drafted- 6 of them are pitchers
Hardin in the 12th
Hugesack in the 13th
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Tyler Davis drafted in the 15th.
7 pitchers now
2 position players
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Will someone recap the players we've had drafted and what round. Thanks.
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Cam Opener drafted in the 19th round
Dirtbag in the 18th
8 pitchers and 3 position. 11 players total
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That does it. 11 players drafted
Hines goes undrafted. That should send a strong message about amending your hitting approach
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Lemon still can't recruit. Parker and Foxy brought in the pitching talent. DJ, Hines, and Mershon all dropped in the draft. Lots of late draft guys too. It's what's inside that top 10 rounds that is a good picture. Pitching was strong but no back end due to injury. The rest though, not so good.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Lemon still can't recruit. Parker and Foxy brought in the pitching talent. DJ, Hines, and Mershon all dropped in the draft. Lots of late draft guys too. It's what's inside that top 10 rounds that is a good picture. Pitching was strong but no back end due to injury. The rest though, not so good.
The mental gymnastics around here to try to keep from giving Lemon a little credit is amazing. Some of you act like he meets our recruits for the 1st time when they show up in August
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
The mental gymnastics around here to try to keep from giving Lemon a little credit is amazing. Some of you act like he meets our recruits for the 1st time when they show up in August
He underperformed like no other. Wins per draft pick:
Texas A&M - 7.6
Tennessee - 7.5
Kentucky - 6.6
Oregon St - 6.4
FSU - 6.1
Arkansas - 5.5
Vandy - 5.4
OSU - 5.3
OU - 5.0
LSU - 4.8
Ole Miss - 3.9
MSU - 3.6
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
He underperformed like no other. Wins per draft pick:
Texas A&M - 7.6
Tennessee - 7.5
Kentucky - 6.6
Oregon St - 6.4
FSU - 6.1
Arkansas - 5.5
Vandy - 5.4
OSU - 5.3
OU - 5.0
LSU - 4.8
Ole Miss - 3.9
MSU - 3.6
Considering that 7-8 of those draft picks were pitchers and therefore not even on the field much of the time and that we had three position players drafted it would kind of prove your "stat" wrong.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Considering that 7-8 of those draft picks were pitchers and therefore not even on the field much of the time and that we had three position players drafted it would kind of prove your "stat" wrong.
Ahh, so you're saying Lemo failed to get talented players (that matter) here?
We can't praise him for all the MLB talent, then defend the W-L record by claiming he had little talent
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Curious ... Dane Burns an MSU recruit from 2 years ago, that would have been a freshman this past year
Drafted in the 17th round
Lefty that throws 97 mph.
Did he get hurt and rehab independently?
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Originally Posted by
The Federalist Engineer
Curious ... Dane Burns an MSU recruit from 2 years ago, that would have been a freshman this past year
Drafted in the 17th round
Lefty that throws 97 mph.
Did he get hurt and rehab independently?
Yes. He essentially redshirted because he had Tommy John around the time he had to report to MSU so he sat the year out because he would have anyway.
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I'm just wondering what if anything has changed with Lemo's assessing these new incoming portal guys.
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
I'm just wondering what if anything has changed with Lemo's assessing these new incoming portal guys.
Well- considering our portal class is ranked 5th best in the country- I'd say he is doing pretty well.
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Originally Posted by
Pancho
I'm just wondering what if anything has changed with Lemo's assessing these new incoming portal guys.
I'd definitely say that as far as the hitters go they're a lot more well rounded players. Lots of guys with 10+ home runs, pretty good K/BB ratios, and at least 10 stolen bases seems to be the typical profile.
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sounds like a SR caliber team. I believe in Parker.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Well- considering our portal class is ranked 5th best in the country- I'd say he is doing pretty well.
Except that site isn't a legitimate site. Some of the stuff on there is really bad. But rankings don't matter much in baseball anyway.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
My stance has always been that Foxhall was the biggest issue. After this year I think it's pretty hard to argue against that.
Except he brought in arms. God awful coach, but he's recruited pretty solid. Take out our pitchers and our draft was trash.
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