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    So we are now at 6 players drafted in the Top 9 rounds

    Seems like we are recruiting fairly well

    and still no Hines/Dirtbag/Hugesak/Hardin
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    Hardin would be great to have back. That's 40 to 50 quality innings. Huge.

    Hujsak needs to claim Long COVID made Lemons bench him for a year, then point to Hancock's horrible numbers, "see, my coach was not thinking right, I was basically red-shirted"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Seems like we are recruiting fairly well

    and still no Hines/Dirtbag/Hugesak/Hardin
    Just shows how much the coaching leaves to be desired (Parker excluded)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandjunky View Post
    Just shows how much the coaching leaves to be desired (Parker excluded)
    Dirtbag? Great season
    Hugesak? Great season
    Chance? Overachiever of the year in the SEC
    Kohler? Hurt all year but hit .300 down the stretch
    Downs? Hit .300 but hurt half the season
    Jordan? Struck out too much but still hit .350 with 20 bombs

    Hines and Larry played below expectations

    Looks like the coaching is pretty good. We finished 5th in the SEC. Do you think our line-up was Top 5 in talent? (The correct answer is no)
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    Parker got the pitchers bank. None of them would've been a top 10 round guy except maybe Dohm and the one guy who couldn't get an out. Maybe Loo falls later. Jordan fell big. Hines still isn't drafted. Take out the pitchers and it's really weak. Foxhall recruited well? Couldn't coach a damn lick. Gaut hasn't done squat recruiting wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Dirtbag? Great season
    Hugesak? Great season
    Chance? Overachiever of the year in the SEC
    Kohler? Hurt all year but hit .300 down the stretch
    Downs? Hit .300 but hurt half the season
    Jordan? Struck out too much but still hit .350 with 20 bombs

    Hines and Larry played below expectations

    Looks like the coaching is pretty good. We finished 5th in the SEC. Do you think our line-up was Top 5 in talent? (The correct answer is no)
    How was that coaching in '22 and '23? To hear you say it we were the "murder's row" 1927 NYY or the '75 Big Red machine, you know all this talent we have. Good thing those teams weren't coached by Lemonz......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Parker got the pitchers bank. None of them would've been a top 10 round guy except maybe Dohm and the one guy who couldn't get an out. Maybe Loo falls later. Jordan fell big. Hines still isn't drafted. Take out the pitchers and it's really weak. Foxhall recruited well? Couldn't coach a damn lick. Gaut hasn't done squat recruiting wise.
    Jerk would have come on- you could see in 23 he just needed experience. He was a preseason Top 150 guy. Purdue is where you could see the improvement. Dohm actually fell lower than expected- but that was arm health concerns and nothing else.

    Hines screwed himself trying to pull everything. DJ needs another year of college and everybody sees that- even the pros. But he is too talented not to take. And even with DJ- his numbers were alot better this year than his Freshman year
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    Dakota is so talented. But for someone who is a great athlete supposedly, he does not steal bases well or play great defense. He strikes out too much, is guilty of trying to do too much, and does not make adjustments at the plate very well. He needs development. Development can happen in the minors, or at the college level. But I think he is a good pick in the 4th round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw View Post
    Dakota is so talented. But for someone who is a great athlete supposedly, he does not steal bases well or play great defense. He strikes out too much, is guilty of trying to do too much, and does not make adjustments at the plate very well. He needs development. Development can happen in the minors, or at the college level. But I think he is a good pick in the 4th round.
    Dude is the truth and supreme athlete. A slump doesn't define what he's done

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    Hopefully he's coachable in the minors

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Dude is the truth and supreme athlete. A slump doesn't define what he's done
    If he can't hit a college breaking ball...I don't know. He's certainly athletic enough to do it. Hopefully someone can help him figure it out in the minors. No doubt he can hit a fastball though.

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    Safe to say, we will not have 9 next year.
    And we did not get past a regional this year with this team.

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    Bottom line is we've got to get big time hitters on campus and we just haven't consistently done it. Hopefully this portal crop proves fruitful & hopefully Gaut gets his crap together a bit.

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    A year ago, the narrative was that Fox handled everything pitching, so Lemo wasn't responsible for any issues there. Now, our success in pitching is proof Lemo is a good recruiter. Can't have it both ways

    More to the point, finishing 5th in the SEC is fine, but not wining a regional was an underperformance. There are not 16 teams with more players drafted.

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    So just looked at it. TN had 8 guys drafted, LSU 7. Then we're in a 6 way tie for 3rd with Arky, Vandy, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, and Florida state.

    Pretty rough to just use this, but we certainly had to 10-15 range talent. Which is great that Lemo got them here (though the Pitchers were on Fox), but not so great that he couldn't make it out of a regional.

    Doesn't really matter. Everyone agrees he's gotta win next year

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    A year ago, the narrative was that Fox handled everything pitching, so Lemo wasn't responsible for any issues there. Now, our success in pitching is proof Lemo is a good recruiter. Can't have it both ways

    More to the point, finishing 5th in the SEC is fine, but not wining a regional was an underperformance. There are not 16 teams with more players drafted.
    We had no hitters or bullpen. We were a one trick pony and our saddle was on our starting pitching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    We had no hitters or bullpen. We were a one trick pony and our saddle was on our starting pitching.
    Exactly

    We have now had 8 players drafted- 6 of them are pitchers

    Hardin in the 12th
    Hugesack in the 13th
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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    So just looked at it. TN had 8 guys drafted, LSU 7. Then we're in a 6 way tie for 3rd with Arky, Vandy, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, and Florida state.

    Pretty rough to just use this, but we certainly had to 10-15 range talent. Which is great that Lemo got them here (though the Pitchers were on Fox), but not so great that he couldn't make it out of a regional.

    Doesn't really matter. Everyone agrees he's gotta win next year
    So in the same talent range as #1 knocked out by #4 Arky, 2 and q 2 seed Vandy; #1 knocked out by #3 Oklahoma; #1 knocked out by #3 OSU; and a CWS team.
    Again, it shows how drafted talent is not necessarily a marker for how you do in the post season.
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