Mississippi State Baseball Expectations

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

This is such a stawman argument. Nobody is saying 2011-2021 is the norm and we'll fire any coach that doesn't immediately live up to the expectations.

But even if they were, that has NOTHING to do with Lemo. He missed the postseason entirely these past 2 years. This year, he'll probably make the tourney but as a bubble team and we're going to have to keep an eye on the wins column till the last weekend.

Is that acceptable as the standard? Miss tourney year 4, miss tourney year 5, make tourney with no room to spare year 6 = "hell yeah let's bring him back for year 7!"?

[Coach34]

This is such a stawman argument. Nobody is saying 2011-2021 is the norm and we'll fire any coach that doesn't immediately live up to the expectations.

Q literally posted that the last 10 years should pretty much be that standard

We are not a bubble team currently. Strong 2 seed. Florida and Bama are the bubble teams currently

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Q literally posted that the last 10 years should pretty much be that standard

We are not a bubble team currently. Strong 2 seed. Florida and Bama are the bubble teams currently

In no world is our unranked #40 RPI #44 SOS team a "strong 2 seed" lol you are living in fantasy land

But again, in almost every metric you want to look at we have top 16 resources. You yourself claim we have a ton of MLB talent. Where is the equivalent performance?

[Coach34]

In no world is our unranked #40 RPI #44 SOS team a "strong 2 seed" lol you are living in fantasy land

But again, in almost every metric you want to look at we have top 16 resources. You yourself claim we have a ton of MLB talent. Where is the equivalent performance?

You can spout "Top 16 resources" all you want but in today's college baseball we are no different than a bunch of teams

In the SEC- it's LSU by themselves- then Candy. After that, the next group of teams are interchangable. State, Mississippi, SC, UPig, Tennessee, A&M, Florida...then we can go to the ACC and Big 12 for a few teams to throw in that group as well. We are a Top 20 program but that 20 is actually about 30-35 teams now

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

You can spout "Top 16 resources" all you want but in today's college baseball we are no different than a bunch of teams

In the SEC- it's LSU by themselves- then Candy. After that, the next group of teams are interchangable. State, Mississippi, SC, UPig, Tennessee, A&M, Florida...then we can go to the ACC and Big 12 for a few teams to throw in that group as well. We are a Top 20 program but that 20 is actually about 30-35 teams now

That is absolutely pure bullshit. You can't take a bunch of top 15/top 10 numbers, average them up, and then get "Were actually tied for 20th with 35 other teams" lol

But let's say we arent a top 16 program. Ok. You yourself have said we have top 5 MLB talent regarding the draft this year. so were the results that match our talent? We should be a top 16 team this year per your own evaluation of our talent, even if you don't think that's sustainable moving forward. We're underperforming our talent level per you

[Coach34]

That is absolutely pure bullshit. You can't take a bunch of top 15/top 10 numbers, average them up, and then get "Were actually tied for 20th with 35 other teams" lol

You're delusional if you think State has some big advantage over the teams I named

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

You're delusional if you think State has some big advantage over the teams I named

1) so please, tell me where I'm wrong? Do we not have top facilities? Is our Coaching pay not good? Is our NIL way worse than I described? Break the math down for me and tell me where my math is wrong.

2) say we aren't that good. Well, your yourself say our talent is really really good. So even if we can't expect to be too 16 moving forward, we should be really good this year, right? Yet we're unranked and have an awful RPI and lost to bad UF and OM teams. So even if you want to give credit to Lemo for making our talent level be better than it should be, you also have to admit he's underperformed with that talent

[Coach34]

In no world is our unranked #40 RPI #44 SOS team a "strong 2 seed" lol you are living in fantasy land

Every projection put out right now has us as a strong 2. The fantasy is all you hoping Lemon fails

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Every projection put out right now has us as a strong 2. The fantasy is all you hoping Lemon fails

I'm not "Hoping" Leminizick fails, he already has failed. I'm hoping we acknowledge that fact and move on from him before he wastes next season too

You're the one who's very pleased with our program and hopes to keep the same results

[Coach34]

You yourself claim we have a ton of MLB talent. Where is the equivalent performance?

Welllllllll let's see:

Jordan? Doing pretty well
Hines? down year but he isnt terrible by any means
Mershon? Dirtbag is hitting .343 and has been great defensively
Hugesak? Hitting .326 and around .340 in SEC play. Really good in CF also
Stephen? One of the SEC's best SP's
Caribbean Jerk? Been pretty good as well
Dohm? Was throwing great until injured

Those are just the definite draft picks

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Welllllllll let's see:

Jordan? Doing pretty well
Hines? down year but he isnt terrible by any means
Mershon? Dirtbag is hitting .343 and has been great defensively
Hugesak? Hitting .326 and around .340 in SEC play. Really good in CF also
Stephen? One of the SEC's best SP's
Caribbean Jerk? Been pretty good as well
Dohm? Was throwing great until injured

Those are just the definite draft picks

Exactly! So where's our top 10 team? You can't claim we have great talent, then look at our unranked #40 RPI team and say "Lemo is doing a good job".

Either we have not top 40 talent and Lemo is coaching them well, or we have a lot of talent and Lemo is underperforming.