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Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
All this Jans talk had me thinking about Lemonis vs Jans, and why I feel loyalty to Lemonis.
Jans
- obviously wants out : looking for other jobs
- had asked for and received fan support
- has improved NIL funds as fans support the program
- we are a definite stepping stone to him it seems
Lemonis
- does nothing but praise State baseball program as the premier place to be
- constantly talks about the privilege the players have to feel for playing in front of our fans
- can recruit
- our team was not tough last year. We are now. He addressed the problem.
- won national championship
I remember Moorhead and how he treated our program. Saying stuff like - ?people act like I inherited the 85 Bears?, etc,,, just nonsense.
Mullen at the end was looking for a job every year.
Lemonis makes no excuses. All i have heard is him saying the expectations are high here and are justified.
If you view Lemonis negatively, I think you should relook.
I think he piggy-backed off the success of Cannizaro and Henderson building a solid foundation. That's not to say Lemonis can't coach. He can, and he took us to Omaha a couple of times and won the title. But I need to see him live up to our standard on his own, fully with his recruits, and he simply hasn't done that yet. He's had two terrible years, and this year is TBD. We're better for sure this year, but I expect more for this program than two bad years and a third year ending our season in a road regional somewhere. I expect us to host more often than not, and I expect us to compete for more national titles.
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Originally Posted by
ArrowDawg
I think he piggy-backed off the success of Cannizaro and Henderson building a solid foundation. That's not to say Lemonis can't coach. He can, and he took us to Omaha a couple of times and won the title. But I need to see him live up to our standard on his own, fully with his recruits, and he simply hasn't done that yet. He's had two terrible years, and this year is TBD. We're better for sure this year, but I expect more for this program than two bad years and a third year ending our season in a road regional somewhere. I expect us to host more often than not, and I expect us to compete for more national titles.
Cann??? LOL. The myth of Cann continues. The guy benefitted completely off what Cohen built, spent his tenure here chasing tail and making weightlifting videos, and got fired one weekend into his second season. He landed a couple of nice recruits and that's it. Henderson was a steady influence who kept the wheels on the bus - and I thank him for it. Neither of them have any lasting impact on the program beyond that. Zero. Unless you count him bringing Goat with him - and most people seem to think he is terrible (I don't but many do).
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Cann??? LOL. The myth of Cann continues. The guy benefitted completely off what Cohen built, spent his tenure here chasing tail and making weightlifting videos, and got fired one weekend into his second season. He landed a couple of nice recruits and that's it. Henderson was a steady influence who kept the wheels on the bus - and I thank him for it. Neither of them have any lasting impact on the program beyond that. Zero. Unless you count him bringing Goat with him - and most people seem to think he is terrible (I don't but many do).
You're right as always, Bruns. 100%. Cann fooled a lot of people(including his wife), well at least for a little while
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
Cann??? LOL. The myth of Cann continues. The guy benefitted completely off what Cohen built, spent his tenure here chasing tail and making weightlifting videos, and got fired one weekend into his second season. He landed a couple of nice recruits and that's it. Henderson was a steady influence who kept the wheels on the bus - and I thank him for it. Neither of them have any lasting impact on the program beyond that. Zero. Unless you count him bringing Goat with him - and most people seem to think he is terrible (I don't but many do).
100%. Cann is a 17'n joke of a coach and human.
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