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Over the past 10 season. (not including 2020 of course).
9/10 years in NCAA tournament.
7/10 years have made super regional - including 5 straight
4/10 years made Omaha including 3 straight currently, including a 3rd and 2nd place finish.
4 different head coaches in last 5 seasons.
This ain't the baseball program Polk left us. We are pulling away in the state and in the SEC.
We are in the Golden Age of MSU baseball. Sit back and enjoy it fellas.
All that's left is a national championship. We may get it this year. We may not. But I believe we are SO close. This is a helluva ride.
A realistic goal for us every year is make a super. Between match ups, teams getting hot, and just the fact that baseball is baseball you can?t expect a trip every year?.but think about the fact that Allen and rowdy have never finished a full season without goin to Omaha.
And with a more competitive SEC. most other programs care about baseball now and have invested. That makes it even more stunning.
The several posts yesterday about Lemonis being a shitty coach are something, though...really makes one wince. The kind of broken brain'ness that can't be explained by science, lol.
The dude has taken us to back-to-back CWS's as back-to-back national seeds. Not only that, but he did it his way this year (I don't think anyone can argue with that): Using the much hated "shift", the "babying" of pitchers, the not yanking guys when he should, the not pitching Sims to win against Mizzou/SC, being run-ruled in the SECT (Oh God, will we ever recover from that embarrassment?*), etc., etc., etc.
The guy knows what he's doing, and "lucky to have him" doesn't really encapsulate it, lol.
So many people just don't understand the game of baseball. It's different than any other sport. Can't bring your football mentality to baseball doesn't work. Lemonis is a dang good coach and the players respond to him. He's like a great jockey who knows when to use the whip!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
And yet everybody and there brother is an expert because they made the 8 yr old all star team outta mineral springs back in 87…Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Only thing worse than second guessers in baseball are college umps!
Word. I also think that the Moorhead debacle just broke some folk's brains when it comes to coaching. Still, as you said, baseball is different; marathon, not a sprint. And Lemo and staff geared this team up perfectly this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
We gotta have a Natty
Yep baseball is a constant chess match and patience is required. Games are long and seasons are long. The best baseball coaches are the ones that see moves ahead and play the long game. Reactionary doesn't play well as a baseball coachQuote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
Cohen and Byrne saved MSU baseball. The old guard at MSU or would admit that we were right all along.
I'm just glad that we have the baseball program that we all want.
Spot. On.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Well said. Too many of our fans are dumb Bitches who refuse to believe the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
bUT wHy CuDNt COhNz pULL sChLOSSSSSS?!?!?!?!?!?
Now I think we get to see the other side of Lemonis - can you handle the short season of Omaha? He didn't do well the first time out, and I think he learned from it (see his use of our pitchers).Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I'm hoping he is more Joe Torre than Bobby Cox when it comes to this. Both knew how to handle the grind of the season and keep the team together, prepared, and well focused, and are two of the best to have ever done it. But, Cox never seemed to go all in in the post season and Torre did. We need Lemonis to be Torre.
May be the toughest CWS ever! It’s me and many may be scared but I hope we beat Texas then play TN knock their sorry as bitch of a coach and sorry ass fan base! Then Texas knocks out Tn and we end up palying Vir for our side of bracket.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Icing on the cake as I never thought we were a top 8 team. Just goes to show team chemistry is so important and many times more so tha talent.
And another thing to remember.. Thank you Greg Byrne and Dr Fogelsong.
We would never be where we are as an athletics department if not for those two changing the university from the old guard. (LT and Polk)
I agree. Just look at Fresno St. and Coastal Carolina in the past. They were not one of the best 8 teams purely from a talent standpoint either but they have the natty.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
This. I hope our fanbase never forgets just how hard it is to make it to Omaha, much less win the thing in Omaha. Think about this. This is Texas's 38th trip to Omaha. They have won it just 6 times in those previous 37 trips. It's hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
Good stat. Fl state too. But TX wins every 6 trips?Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I'm glad to have Lemonis, he's obviously a great coach. Doesn't make him perfect though. But he is pulling the right strings at the right time. I thought he should have been starting Harding over Fristoe for awhile now, but who really knows why he waited so long. Fristoe was really good for most of the season, and Harding didn't fare much better in a couple of opportunities he was given to pull away. I think that's a settled question now though.
I also got super nervous when he brought Sims in so early last night. But, it was the right decision (again). It got sketchy, but he knew he needed his best arm out there to let us hang on. It was a SUPER ballsy move when you really think about it, but it was the right move.
He's tinkered with things all year, and he really got it all just right exactly in time to make a post season run. He's done a GREAT job coaching this year.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Commercecomet24 again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Agree 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I wonder if DVH wishes he would have "developed" more pitching down the stretch so that Arky wasn't so "thin" against the better teams in America at season's end? But kudos to Kevin Kopps, who definitely had an electric year but is now sitting at home as the short-game was chosen by DVH.
I wonder if Bianco wishes he would've pulled Hoglund in earlier innings to maybe not wear his arm out but to also "develop" more pitching for the better teams in America at season's end? But kudos to Nikhazy, who definitely had an electric year but is now sitting at home as the short-game was chosen by Bianco.
I wonder if Manieri wishes he would've not pitched Jaden Hill so much early in the season when winning every game really didn't matter, which came at the expense of not developing additional pitching. Again, the short-game was chosen by Manieri.
I like to think that by Lemonis & Foxhall choosing to play the long game with our pitching staff, we've develop our pitching so that we can make a run... we'll see.
This is the one thing I never understood. I know you don't like to lose any games, but your bullpen needs work in high leverage situations and no one in their bullpen was ever put in that situation at any point in the season. Anytime there was trouble they'd just put in Kopps. I wouldn't fault Van Horn for starting Kopps on Sunday, I'd fault him for not developing anyone else over the past 3 months that you could trust to get you 4-5 innings where you could then go to Kopps later.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSOPdawg
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Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
This needs to NEVER EVER be forgotten!!! It should be pinned at the top of the board. Let us never forget.
Tony Larussa called this "long vision" and only the elite mangers have it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSOPdawg
Guess he needs to use that long vision to find himself a ride home…Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Awesome! Not a Larussa fan at all,but I heard him talking about this one timeQuote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
and mentioned Bobby Cox, Joe Torre and Jim Leyland as having that.
I miss seeing Leland sneaking smokes in the dugout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
That's why we sometimes lose to a mid major like Kent State or Belmont early in the year and those schools tend to not do that as often. Yeah we could leave someone in like Bednar for 120 and get a win over Tulane in February but we would pay for it in June. Teams can afford a few early "bad" losses because in the SEC there is time to make it up. Especially when you win 20 SEC games.Quote:
Originally Posted by WSOPdawg
Yeah and I don't understand why some of these other coaches don't get it. To win in postseason baseball it always comes down to pitching depth, always at any level and yet some of these guys refuse to take their lumps early to develop that depth. Everyone one of these good teams lose because they run out of pitching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Outstanding post brotherQuote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Chris Lemonis is the rare coach who has a good feel for the pace of the game and his players while also being in tune with the analytics of the game.
It was the 9 yr. old team from Hatchie Creek in '89!!! Only team to bring home a regional title!!! We stole on every pitch after it crossed the plate, so yeah - I'd say we know a little something about baseball. It's called playing "small" ball - ever heard of it???***Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe