Sam is proof he couldn’t play in the league, his sexuality is completely irrelevant and continuing to use him for your argument is a false cause fallacy. He was just not good enough, period.
Spot on here. Just one example and there are many, many others: Lawrence Phillips got about a gazillion chances in the nfl even though he was a complete psychopath, because he was talented. NFL tends to look the other way on just about anything as long as you're talented. Once you can't produce though you're done period.
Ari said that it's one-sided that an OAN supporter got persecuted. I provided counter examples where that clearly is false. I'm now the problem with America. OAN is literally Fox News but for people who don't mind being associated with KKK. But I'm the problem with America.
Again if you believe he played not one snap in the NFL because of talent even though he won SECDPOY, then I have some oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you.
I really don't understand why you are dying on this hill on an SEC team's board. Are you saying we don't put out good defensive players? I mean lol. No one gave him a snap? Take away his sexuality and ask yourself how absurd that would sound to you.
But beyond that you didn't reset to what the argument was.
He absolutely didn’t play because he was not good enough for the NFL. He was an anomaly when he won the DPOY the year. Nothing prior to his senior year lead you to believe he was going to be DPOY. He was a one hit wonder, had one great year. Good for him but that was it. He was way undersized for the NFL at DE, weak for a DL with his combine reps, and not close to fast enough to play OLB. He dropped considerably prior to the draft because of his poor showing at the combine And his size. He was not good enough and after his rookie year he was invited to the NFL free agents combine in which he was even worse than his first combine coming out of college.
You can continue to spew this fallacy to attempt to further your talking points but it has no fact behind it. Heck the man couldn’t even make past 1 year in the CFL but you ignorantly believe he was not given a fair shake by the NFL? I guess as DPOY he should have been selected over Clowney in 2014 with you arguments...they came out the same year. There were 22 DE’s selected in 2014 and he was rated around 20th, so he was drafted where he should have been. There were 22 of the 41 7th rounders who made the final cuts, so him being cut was more than in line with where he was selected. The player that was kept had almost identical stats but could play multiple DL positions and played in the league for 5-6 years. It’s just absurd noise and as poor of an example you could have chosen.
The rest of your response is just hyperbole, where did I try to reset the argument? That’s an absurd statement, my argument has and continues to be that you used a fallacy cause for your argument. It’s a piss poor attempt of an example. Period. That’s all my point was about. You are so blinded by your agenda, where you could have literally stayed talking about Kap and Reid and had a much much better argument but you throw in a make believe story when it’s factually wrong. His sexuality had nothing to do with it, there have been and are known gay players in the NFL for decades. Just because they didn’t come out publicly or to the media or even the majority of their teammates, doesn’t mean executives and players didn’t know. He was cut because he was not good enough for the NFL. Period. Believe whatever you want in you fairy tale head but know it’s a false argument.
Guys .... I blocked this guy a while back and yall keep quoting him ... if you can find it in your hearts when responding to him to not quote him - I myself and no telling how many others would appreciate it
thanks
ETA - speaking about Dan
Scooba do the right thing, the vast majority (and it's not even close) are waiting.
Btw, even thou there isn't much sports going on, I wish the virus post and any politics post would be moved. It's pretty old reading the same old comments. Heck you guys have an Outdoor page which I like, so make changes, asking for a friend***,
many friends!
I'm giving him a chance to explain himself...
I'm the troll he spoke about. Yes, I argued with him and I was banned for a week. But he just wouldn't stop and I took offense and let my emotions get the better of me. I do read his drivel but try not to respond anymore to him. For the record I'm not a troll I just wanted to discuss my points.