What did Leach’s scheme do when he played SEC talent? Let me give you a hint. It wasn’t worth a shit.
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He seems pretty confident what he's talking about. Remains to be seen whether or not he is correct. I understand basically what he means. We don't recruit the top players most of the time to go head to head with the big time programs, and the Air Raid somewhat levels the playing field. I don't think we would have beaten Auburn 2 years ago without the Air Raid. Rogers passes were dead on and we came back to win after being down 28-3.
Dunning-Kruger effect
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Well said. I agree on everything except the 10-2 and 11-1 stuff. 8/9-4/3 should've been the expectation. We dropped the ball against ky.
Anyway, CML did an awesome job. I'll miss him. I was a huge fan, bought his book and everything.
He said to trust ZA. I love his attitude and energy. He stumped the 'wizard' of offense in LK, won the bowl, kept our team together and held the class leach put together while adding even better pieces. The guy deserves nothing but respect at the moment.
No he does not. He ran App St system at App St and Mc's system at CMU. His complete offense pulls from a lot of different places. He is a multiple spread guy with pro, AR, RPO, etc. concepts running through his offense.
Why am I even responding to you, you just lie about what he does to keep up this asinine schtick.
Analytically speaking here- his passing is good. BUT the issue is he only has historically passed 38-45% of the time. He would likely be even better if he passed more. Now no- not saying he should pass 70% of the time. 55-60% though could make a huge difference though. The reason I think his passing metrics are because when he does pass it's typically play action which is analytically considered the most effective play in football. And in the early stages what is kind of disappointing to me is he always makes it a point that his offense is about establishing the run when in reality analytics says he would be a lot better- and likely elite- if he passed to set up the run than the other way around.
And by the way the analytics guy whose numbers you are using basically said "small sample size" when asked about Barbay in an interview recently on the Bo Bounds show.
This is why there is a lot unknown and IMO risk with Barbay. He hasn't really run "his" offense ever. Sure- I'm sure he added some of his touches and whatnot. But at Central Michigan he ran McElwain's offense and at App State they have "their" offense which is very specific to them and highly influenced by their head coach- Shawn Clark. No one really knows what he will do at this point other than from practice reports- 3 and 4 WR sets and some 2 TE sets. So far. IMO IF he meshed Leach's Air Raid concepts with the play action and some more downfield stuff and some exotic plays- halfback pass, reverses, jet sweeps, etc. that he has done our offense could be maximized with the talent we presently have on the roster.
Great post. I think I predicted 9-3 during the regular season and I missed on Kentucky.
No one at MSU has ever had a scheme that consistently lit up bluebloods. We did well against A&M, Auburn, and Arkansas. And if we don't have a plethora of turnovers against Ole Miss we blow them out. The fact that we won with all the turnovers says a lot.
As it is as a MSU fan our realistic expectations should be to have an offense where we compete with bluebloods in a low scoring game and score 30+ on all others. That's because of our talent level.
I'm going to be 100% honest here.
What WKU does is actually the offense that most MSU fans really want. They may not realize it yet- but it is.
I wish we would have hired Ben Arbuckle. If we're being honest with ourselves he wouldn't be any more- and to me would be much less risky than Barbay. But the fact that Arbuckle is 27 has people spooked.
https://www.footballstudyhall.com/pl...raid-pro-style
The good pro-style spread teams are concept based, like the Air Raid, and try to do a few things really well. The bad ones try to mix in spread formations and concepts with pro-style language and approaches, call themselves "multiple," and are inefficient at most everything.
It's very difficult for college teams to actually be really, really good at multiple comprehensive concepts. The amount of practice time and the versatility or roster depth necessary to be balanced between the run and pass is usually beyond most programs. You see this most prominently at tight end.
The best tight ends you've heard of are usually just okay run-blockers and great receivers. Then there are tight ends who are great blockers but aren't typically awesome receivers. The challenge of the pro-style spread is usually how to run the ball effectively from formations with a TE if the TE isn't actually a good run-blocker.
I was a fan too and also bought his book. Unfortunate that we lost him the way we did. Guy never got to retire down to Key West and enjoy that year round.
I have a lot of respect for CZA. Just going along with the same type expectations many on here had for Leach. I actually will be pleasantly surprised with 10 wins next year. 9 should be very doable tho. And if we don't get to 10 or our offense is stumbling/bumbling I won't be on here repeatedly calling for CZA or Barbay to be fired.
Then it's a good thing he doesn't mix pro-style language and approach to his offense.
You completely skipped this part of the article though:
"The modern versions of the Air Raid have tended to mute the wide splits and overly pass-heavy emphasis of the original Air Raid. Run/pass options (RPOs) and dual-threat QBs have been a major boon to the system and allowed teams to get enough out of their running game to be balanced and stop defenses from embracing the same kind of extreme, pass-focus to stop them."
So you the article you site to try prove a point contradicts your stance in that it emphasizes that being more balanced in running the ball and utilizing a running QB has been a boon for the Air Raid.
Except you can't prove a negative. His stance is that nothing, except the purest form of the AR, will work at MSU going forward. There was 1 coach in the world who ran that pure form. He is no longer available as a coach. He averaged 6.3 wins per season as our coach. So, theoretically, any time any coach drops below 6.3 wins per season, KB will try to say "I told you so". But, it's irrelevant, bc no coach alive would ever run what KB wants, so there is no data to compare against, and there never will be. We will never know if the offense would be better or worse by running the pure AR, but KB has set it up so that he can always claim that it would be better than whatever we happen to be doing at the moment. It's an option that didn't exist, and that can never exist again, yet it's the "option" he wants to compare everything against. It's actually an insane, by the classical definition, stance to have taken. So, good luck to anyone who tries to prove anything on one side or the other.
Again, you are wrong. Western Kentucky ran the Air Raid under Zach Kittley and Ben Arbuckle, who we could have and should have hired. They had the 2nd best passing offense in 2022 at 352.1 yards per game. They had the 2nd most pass attempts at 623. They clearly run a pass first and pass often air raid. Under Kittley, they had the #1 passing offense at 433 yards per game and threw it 697 times.
Georgia Southern runs the Air Raid. They had the 4th best passing offense at 329.9 yards per game. They had the third most passing attempts at 612. Bryan Ellis, their OC, could have been hired.
I just hope Arnett can admit that he made a mistake and dump Barbay after the season to bring back Hollingshead after Drew lights the scoreboard up at WKU this year.