This is so true. Disgusting, shameful, pathetic, and sad people.
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This is the crux of the issue. People being reactive vs. proactive with a disease. It's one thing to be the reactive party in a war, but this is not that. This is a disease and we must be proactive. America being reactive has already cost 99 American lives. If it was you or your family member / friend then you'd say that's a pretty unacceptable price. I'd rather none of us have to reach that point. I'd rather be called crazy and help protect people's lives from this pandemic and have all the people saying it's an overreaction be right instead of what we've had happen. Now I'm proven right and people are becoming confirmed as injected more and more each minute. A 36% increase in 24 hours shows how little testing we were actually doing.
One thing is more than clear at this point. There are a couple of particular networks, one in particular that have failed this country. Once this is over and if you still watch that network you need your head checked. Its not really debatable at this point. One network has intentionally downplayed this. They have intentionally put the country at risk
As far as where I get my news. I like the wires, AP, Reuters. I like PBS and the BBC. New York times and washing post are generally fine, I try not to put too much into editorials.
One thing is VERY CLEAR. there is a large section of our country that is VERY unknowledgeable about whats going on. Its not really happening with all people and all media. It is clearly centered around one type of news source. You cant really deny it. The facts are the facts. A lot of people here get their news from crap sources. Every news source has issues.....but certain ones have a lot more issues than others. And if you group together the people that understand whats going on and the ones that dont.....you will see a clear line drawn about where they get their news
Its not hard to find good accurate news. If you cant that is really on you. Its not hard to know if information you are getting is correct. Dont stick to a single source. The problem is people....on both sides.....stick only to "their" media. If you only stick to one side you will never get correct info
I'll take a break after this one, but this may put it in perspective for some:
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5% of Infected needed ventilators in China.
WHO data
The US won?t run out of machines. The US has many makers and many in warehouses at DME companies.
We are probably gonna end up with 500,000 extra units for Mexico and Canada when it?s all said and done.
Many of the US vulnerable already have a ventilator.
You need to go to worldometers.info and look at the daily stats. Daily new cases and daily deaths were actually down for Italy yesterday. It's still a lot but if you look at China's stats about a month to 7 weeks you start to see a decline in the virus from first reported. Maybe Italy has peaked...maybe not. Time will tell.
who is that guy and where is he getting his numbers?
I think the prespective people need is Italy actually just had their largest increase in both cases and deaths.
3,600 new cases yesterday; 364 deaths yesterday
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No doubt. Don't deny or disagree with anything there.
I've also thought before this even came about that if you rely on implied networks or the ones I originally mentioned you need your head checked and to quit being a follower or so one-sided. It's not the way anything else in the world works.
Thanks for looking that up.
So where did 20% come from? Why even pluck that number out of thin air and bring it here? Why try and make it an extreme scenario when it's not close to reaching that point.
Read my words before you respond. I didn't say it's not possible, but this is part of where the "why are people freaking out?" comments come from. It's not that all who ask that don't understand the severity of it, it's this type of hooplah that people read and then turn around and ask their friend questions using 20% as their jumping-off point.
You need to learn reading comprehension. Would love to know your thought process on how you came to that conclusion.
It's fake news because they actually lie. And they whether they are intentionally misleading rather than lying (to the extent you see that as different), the result is the same. People can't take the news at face value, which diminishes a lot of the value of the news.
No, you really don't get it and must be fortunate enough to live in a nice little bubble. It's not about having busy lives although certainly there are people who are rationally ignorant. Those people who are rationally ignorant probably have figured this stuff out for a while, even if maybe a few days later than they would have if we had decent media. It's about a significant portion of our population not having the ability and/or inclination to research an issue of importance and the only media with any widespread reach have taken a torch to their credibility over the past decade or so for a combination of reasons, some dealing with partisanship and stupidity but also some driven by market structure and incentives.
Gotcha….these daily numbers are confusing me, because with the time difference I cant ever tell if I am a day behind.
I am seeing 3,600 cases....but I guess that was for the 15th? And right now the numbers of the 16th should be coming? I think that is correct
Yeah, it's calculated at +0 GMT so the times are a little wonky. With that being said I just read where Italy is kind of fudging their numbers a bit because "new cases" are being reported based on a calculation that includes the new cases that day MINUS the recovered cases and deaths for that day. So they are actually reporting the difference in active cases...if I explained that correctly. No one else is doing that. Also, it's interesting that almost a full half of their cases are coming out of Lombardy. I'm not sure what the significance of that area is because I'm not really up on my Italian geography.
Well the good news (if you can call it good news) is that the death rate in the US is comparatively low to that of other countries. Almost 6,000 cases with 100 deaths gives us a death rate of around 1.6%. Still a lot of people, but that number should go down even further with increased testing. For comparison sakes, the world death rate is 4%. Italy's is almost 8%.
I think Italy combined with lack of testing for mild cases and (in many cases) lack of quality screening tests are really throwing the stats off.
ETA: It absolutely blows my mind. I just read an article where there are complaints in Italy because Covid-19 POSITIVE individuals were made to return to work at the post office....until they were hospitalized and subsequently died three days later. Good grief...we may start seeing some of the real reasons behind Italy's death rate as info starts to leak out. That is inexcusable!!