Here is what needs to bother you about Baseball recruiting

We won the Natty. Hell yeah bitches!!!! But Tenn made the CWS also. They were good last year. They beat the **** out of us in the SEC Tourney.

They didnt celebrate their best season in 20 years- they recruited. Dollander transferred in from Ga Southern. He has become the SEC POY throwing 94-97. K'ed 90 while walking only 9. Why were they able to do that and not us? He isnt their only pull- but this really bothers me. Why couldnt we- as the National Champs- pull a couple of impact players for this season like Tenn did?

Why are they proactive when we are now reactive?
A&M got transfers from all over and won the West. Thats coaching from a guy we wouldnt commit to. He has shown his recruiting prowess immediately- unlike our coach.
It's just really frustrating to see our staff waste a Natty like this one has. It's mind-blowing

It's really mind boggling because Lemonis was supposed to be this great recruiter. That's all we heard about, but I have yet to see it come to fruition.

This is an outlier, not the norm. Vandy wasn’t worth a crap this year and they played for a Natty as well.

We got a 1st team all SEC transfer so I’d say he did pretty well with that. Jess Davis was a gold glove winner the previous year. I feel like we should step back from the ledge until this happens again.

Lemonis has never had his pants pulled down like this so let’s see what happens. The man didn’t forget how to recruit all of a sudden.

Several of our high school commitments aren?t looking too great either.

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Several of our high school commitments aren?t looking too great either.

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Ok in fairness, if they do "look too great" then they don't make it to campus. Then we bitch about wasting time on "guys who will never step foot on campus" and we list all the great players weve had that werent MLB risks in HS and say thats who we should recruit instead... There's a sweet spot and I'm not going to pretend to be knowledgeable enough to know where our recruits fall on the scale

Vitello is a very good coach for starters.
However Tennessee is easier to recruit to than State. Larger state. Larger population within 4-5 hours. A lot more money to throw around under the table or nil. Most of their pitchers are from Tennessee and the others are SC and GA.

However why is the Desoto Central kid playing there? I truly don't know. Desoto county is not exactly painted in maroon but we have represented well at DC in the past. I'm surprised we didn't get that kid.

As for development. I think it's obvious they are coaching better than most. Especially with pitchers.

Lastly, I think they're on steroids. Semi joking there. They are extremely talented. But it wouldn't surprise me.

I think our pitching coach sucks. Just my opinion.

Booker committed to Tennessee early in his high school career as did Kam James and Blaze Jordan to MSU. Booker's dad played in the pro's so I assumed their was a connection to knoxville with him but not sure.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Ok in fairness, if they do "look too great" then they don't make it to campus. Then we bitch about wasting time on "guys who will never step foot on campus" and we list all the great players weve had that werent MLB risks in HS and say thats who we should recruit instead... There's a sweet spot and I'm not going to pretend to be knowledgeable enough to know where our recruits fall on the scale

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You realize we've cut loose a number of recruits and are still cutting them right? Our evaluation of talent sucks! We aren't bring in difference makers. I can't name one FR that I expect to start or contribute much next year. We've got one Juco that should. You look around the league and teams are signing impact FR.
Then there's the Foxhall Effect. He brings in kids and changes everything up and suddenly they can't throw strikes. He also signs guys that struggle to throw strikes if they throw hard. We've sucked at recruiting. We already had a hole due to coaching changes. It's a big mess. One that's going to have us chasing portal guys for a couple years.

I've compared lemonis to Vitello a lot this year, but I'm gonna quit. Vitello is the best coach in the country.

I think we looked at pitchers like Fristoe, Tepper, Stinnet, etc. and expected them to progress and perform equal to their ?stuff?. Add that to the injuries and I can sort of see not upsetting the apple cart with too many portal players.

My concerns is that we didn?t identify the ?non performers?, especially the pitchers. I?d also like to see pitchers with more movement. I like the spin stuff, but if a pitcher isn?t good at using it, we need to look for pitchers with traditional movement.

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Several of our high school commitments aren?t looking too great either.

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Don’t forget to look at the ‘23 class and beyond. That is a better barometer of our recruiting.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

We won the Natty. Hell yeah bitches!!!! But Tenn made the CWS also. They were good last year. They beat the **** out of us in the SEC Tourney.

They didnt celebrate their best season in 20 years- they recruited. Dollander transferred in from Ga Southern. He has become the SEC POY throwing 94-97. K'ed 90 while walking only 9. Why were they able to do that and not us? He isnt their only pull- but this really bothers me. Why couldnt we- as the National Champs- pull a couple of impact players for this season like Tenn did?

Why are they proactive when we are now reactive?
A&M got transfers from all over and won the West. Thats coaching from a guy we wouldnt commit to. He has shown his recruiting prowess immediately- unlike our coach.
It's just really frustrating to see our staff waste a Natty like this one has. It's mind-blowing

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There?s alot more to the Schlossnagle circus than ?we wouldn?t commit to him?. He was all but given the papers to sign until he was touring the stadium and outlining his recruiting plan which violated every rule in the NCAA handbook. That?s why we pulled out.

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Originally Posted by Rawdawg

There?s alot more to the Schlossnagle circus than ?we wouldn?t commit to him?. He was all but given the papers to sign until he was touring the stadium and outlining his recruiting plan which violated every rule in the NCAA handbook. That?s why we pulled out.

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In todays NCAA if you are not cheating you are not trying hard enough.

Exactly. Dont give me that BS. There are no more rules in recruiting anymore. Plus, the guy had been a successful HC and no problems from the NCAA.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

I've compared lemonis to Vitello a lot this year, but I'm gonna quit. Vitello is the best coach in the country.

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"Not so fast my friend"***

Why would say he is the best in the country, because he won the Sec this year. Time will tell if he is the best.

It seems Tennessee has a lot of money for baseball players. I found this thread....

Booker isn't listed. But he receives the East Tennessee Nissan Athletic scholarship.

http://https://www.volnation.com/forum/threads/who-will-come-back.329559/

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Originally Posted by Hambone

This is an outlier, not the norm. Vandy wasn’t worth a crap this year and they played for a Natty as well. .

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Vandy is projected as a 2 seed in the Tourney. Where are we again?

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Originally Posted by Rawdawg

There?s alot more to the Schlossnagle circus than ?we wouldn?t commit to him?. He was all but given the papers to sign until he was touring the stadium and outlining his recruiting plan which violated every rule in the NCAA handbook. That?s why we pulled out.

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Which is why he?s such a perfect fit at Texas AM. Just look who runs their Atheletic Dept. No body can tell me that Ross
isn?t one of the biggest cheaters in all of college sports. And their football coach is slime also

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Vandy is projected as a 2 seed in the Tourney. Where are we again?

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Way to prove my point, Coach. Both teams had a losing conference record one year removed from playing for it all.

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Originally Posted by Hambone

Way to prove my point, Coach. Both teams had a losing conference record one year removed from playing for it all.

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What? Nobody would be bitching if we were a two seed this year. We didn't even make the conference tournament and had one of the worst seasons most have seen. We fell off the map. They're just having a down year compared to last season.