So wouldn't this lead one to believe total case is less, % of positive cases is much less, and death rate is less too?
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I hear you. And appreciate it I guess. I have used your stats and graphs to keep up with some stuff because like I've said, you have been consistent. No clue on the accuracy of everything and I'm not trying to determine that or deny that.
It's just the amount of info and misinformation is the scary part of all of this. Not the virus itself (For me personally at least). I'm just wary to post stuff or even quote stuff with friends and co-workers with so much uncertainty. Not trying to convince you to do otherwise. I'm just not confident enough in any of this to try to depend on what one group or expert says. And I doubt any experts would claim complete certainty either.
It is what it is, carry on. I just can't completely buy into everything while using those countries as our metric to compare to. I understand you keeping up with that certainly though.
Here's the point on speculating, assuming, etc. With all that you have been posting on here somebody may see that comment and think you have some inside information and then freak out or tell somebody else. I knew you didn't because you wouldn't have made a comment like that. Fact of the matter is anybody who is in the know on what MSDH, the Governor, or other applicable government agencies are going to do wouldn't even be posting on here anyway. The poster was correct who said this thread has turned into a gloom and doom thread.
This. There's just to much coming from both sides to know what is accurate and I'm not sure that anyone knows anything for a certaintity anyway. I'm fortunate that in my business I have a lot of contact with doctors, nurses and admins who I can talk to and get good info from.
I really like worldometers.info but I wish that they would let us see graphs for each individual states. It would probably be a lot of work but I'd like to look at the historical trends. I think Washington State's quarantine effectiveness is starting to show up.
My bad for the speculation. Seriously.
But regarding the other stuff -- it's a pandemic, people are getting infected and dying in increasing numbers every day. Of course it's a gloom and doom thread. There's very little good news. Should we talk about how West Virginia is last in the country in infections? There's a place in the Pacific Ocean that hasn't been hit yet?
Maybe just less trying to convince and just leaving it at updating. At this point, most people have drawn their line. Right or wrong.
I mean you're in Chunky, go float the river in seclusion and enjoy the outdoors. Chunky is a good place to be when it comes to population density.
For the record, I don't mind speculation. I do think its important to make it clear when you're speculating and when you're stating facts (the universal you, not you in particular). If this thread is for nothing but updating statistics, then we might as well delete the thread and put a link to some websites with good reliable stats at the top of the page.
And I say that as someone who disagrees with you about whether or not we're headed towards an Italian sized mortality rate.
I'm an RN and emptying bed pans is one of the many things that I do.
@Dantheman4248 how in the world are you going to act like you "definitely" know what I do? You don't know me. That comment just tells me what a piece of trash you are.
Because if you did you'd have a clue. Congratulations on being the unicorn healthcare worker downplaying this pandemic. To quote Ron Burgundy, "I don't believe you." Guessing by your board reputation, others don't care for you either. Might be the oldest red account I've seen other than 34.
I'm sorry then what is it that you do in healthcare? You mentioned you worked in it. I also know many other nurses that are of the same opinion as I. I know many that think this is the end of the world and many in between. You speak in broad generalities. "Guessing by your board reputation, others don't care for you either." Another trash comment by a trash person. I've read a lot of your comments to catch up to speed on this board and you have quite the habit of attacking people. I also don't care if you believe me or not but you "definitely" don't know anything about me.
These are all fair points. My rebuttal to china and russia is that canada and europe seem to have certain aspects of the healthcare figured out that we don't. The VA hospitals man... just an absolute travesty.
I don't think UH or UBI are a magic cure-all. And I agree that bureaucracy destroys it. It's absolutely mindnumbing to see people wanting to go backwards however. And I still believe we gotta try. There's no perfect solution path (anyone who says there is, is lying.) But there's definitely steps better than we got. As for the hospitals being the DMV, I mean for a lot of people it can be, even in the ER. Not VA level bad, but it's gotten pretty bad.
Sidenote: We could all (myself included) take a lesson from this post. This is how we should be discussing things. Together not against.
You entered this thread assuming things about people you don't know and claiming they get their sources from one certain area just because they dared speak ill of your leader. Now that someone else assumes things about you based on your comments, they are trash.
Buddy... have some self awareness at least. You're showing no awareness at either a self or worldly level. Quite amazing honestly.
The comment you're referring to I used the language "highly likely" that people were getting their info from those places. That's very different from using definite language like here:
"Speaking as someone who DOES work in healthcare... the guy Beardo responded to definitely doesn't actually do anything healthcare related. He probably works as a janitor/maintenance in a hospital and calls that healthcare. No way he's "on the front lines". (For the record, I'm not either.)"
President Trump is also your leader whether you like him or not. I called you trash because you treated me as trash from the get-go and not only announced I'm definitely not in healthcare but that I'm probably a janitor. Who in the world says things like that?
BTW I'm still waiting on your answer as to what it is you actually do in healthcare.