I agree. I am willing to wait and see more but just anointing him the king of O at this point is just ignorant but what many are doing. Like what the D has done and they have proved their position. O not so much.
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We may be a little better next year. But until we put some innovation into the run game- we will not win SEC games. Our current offense the way its called will not win the SEC. 61 passes against one of the worst run defenses in the country wont fly in SEC football.
I know you know this but typically the more experience you have the less of those F ups you commit.
Also, I hate to tell you but our WRs except for one who is legit and the other bc he is tough and smart are not more talented than anyone. 11 should get all of 5 and 18s reps. 5 had a huge play on a deep ball and saw a safety coming and ran away from the ball. Anyway before I get off point, you should know better
I do wish we would do more with the run game. It is in the book, he has done it before. That we agree on. BUT..
You either did not watch the game or are just carrying this on for popularity sake. It took a 14-0 swing on a fumble at the GL for them to beat us. The last 2 weeks, with the fewest amount of scholly players in the league, and with the least amount of experience, has come down to the last play on the road against 2 SEC opponents. Come on dude.
THIS! For a few vocal fans all they do is whine about how they don't like what we're doing. It's absolutely absurd. And the ONLY reason they're running our coach down is because they want to see more exciting plays where we hand the ball off. At MSU we not only want to win- but by God we have to win running the ball because that's what we do like a bunch of dumb rednecks.**
Of course we won't improve. Everyone else gets better except us.**
Look- I like your kid and think he will be a solid college QB. I just dont think the offense the way we run it currently is going to work. Agree we need to add some innovation to the run game with a counter or buck with a thumper in the offense. Hell, I run an RPO with the Buck that stretches the field horizontally. Our Genius could at least do that. If Leach will morph as a veteran as Saban did- he will be successful. If he doesnt? He will go the way of Les Miles
We do not have more talent at WR than they have at DB. We have 2 WRs that would get an offer from someone else. And 4 is not one of them atm. He is getting better but he has got to mature. He is killing us with penalties. He has a chance to be legit but I would take 85 over him right now
Will simply takes care of the ball better than Costello. In hindsight to me that's Leach's biggest mistake. Not going with Will to start with. But I understand why he didn't since he was a true freshman and coaches tend to lean on experience- sometimes too much in some cases. Also, Rogers was sick the first two games.
If we don't have the pick 6's we beat Arkansas and Kentucky and our season is probably completely different.
I think the answer is in the middle.
I think Leach is a really good coach with a good, not great offensive system that lacks versatility
Because he's an excellent manager/decision maker/culture setter with a good offensive system, we're going to get pretty good and consistent.
However, to really compete for the West, he'll need to make some adaptations in the run game. It's probably why he's always won, but never won his division or conference
Again you just can?t get out of your own way. He is not my kid. I love him to death won?t deny that but he is not my kid. Lame as hell of you to keep that on.
The rest I agree with to an extent. I personally would not do what he does either. I hate being one dimensional. It will work, change or die. We agree on that. But some of y?all just act like there is no chance and that is ridiculous. You me and Bear Bryant could not do much with what he has been given. The kids fight harder than they have fought since the gator bowl of 2017!
Dear gosh.
Nobody is saying we all of the sudden have a good offense and are right where we need to be. Just that we have shown growth and there is reason to think we will be just fine in the long run given who our coach is and some of the bright spots we have seen in recent games.
Our defense from October 3rd to November 7th was one of the worst in college football. We finished with 2 points against a very mediocre Kentucky team and barely cracked 200 yards of offense against a Vandy defense that is currently ranked 116th in the country. We were as low as a Mike Leach offense possibly could have been. But comparative to where we were just three weeks ago, the offense has clearly made improvements. Even if you don't think we did enough against Ole Miss, we have still taken steps forward in the last two games.
Our freshman QB has progressively gotten better in each of his three starts and just threw for 440 and three TDs, we have a true freshman WR who has more yards in 8 games than any of our receivers since 2016 have had in a full 13 game season, and we are having to play two freshmen tailbacks and two freshmen tackles. We are getting either very little or flat out nothing from the players we expected to be leading us at the beginning of the year.
It is never OK to lose the Egg Bowl and it is disappointing that we made some mistakes that cost us the game. But we were dead to rights two weeks ago and our fans were claiming we should cancel the rest of our games because we were just going to get embarrassed in all of them. Instead we have played two road games against teams that are better than us this year, all while we have been massively short-handed, and we gave those teams all we could handle all while showing the first signs of life that our offense has shown since Week 1.
Now I do think we need to find a way to beat Auburn or Missouri so that we can have something other than moral victories to hang our hats on, but I am pleased with the growth we have shown in recent weeks and now feel much better about our chances to win either of these last two games.
We have a better shot at the west with this than we had with ******* ?power spread? as y?all call it. Bama will eat that shit for lunch. Spin a safety to the RB side down for the read option/QB power/counter and play cover 1 and 2 man on 3rd down and Mullen was in his shell.
That's the thing. Leach- unlike Croom or Moorhead- has an actual track record of doing this. And so far it has played out like it has before. Which makes freaking out even less intelligent at this point.
The other funny thing is Leach's offense is pretty close in PPG to Dan in 2009- and our offense PPG is the same as 2010 and 2011 with a good chance of passing those two in the next couple of games.
And what did some of these same posters say on sixpack at the time? "Wait till Dan gets the right personnel in". And yet- Leach with a plethora of freshmen and sophomores and a broken culture essentially performing at the same level as Dan "won't work in the SEC".
Heck- Dan's best offenses were when could actually pass the ball adequately.