word is already out there this may be it for Leach. This problem may solve itself
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word is already out there this may be it for Leach. This problem may solve itself
I don't think it's as much about giving it time, it's just about reality. Leach is doing ok. Not where people want him to be and it's really frustrating that his side of the ball disappears for stretches pretty much every game and often for entire games. Overall, we're treading water with him. Maybe the offense looks different with a QB that can push down the field more, or maybe it doesn't. But firing him at this point won't make our job attractive. We'll have a short leash and limited NIL support along with a roster built for the air raid. Who are we going to get at that point? Not saying there won't be coaches dying to come coach; there will be. I'm just not sure what kind of track record they are going to have.
If we are going to pay him $10M+ (or whatever his buyout is at this point) to not coach us anymore, we'd probably get much better result asking anybody willing to pony up for a buyout to put that money towards NIL instead.
I didn't say that did I? What I meant was people in those positions can be crucified over any trivial thing they say or do, so they have to be very careful. And a big deal can be made about something to the point that the University has no choice but to reprimand or fire someone
Just like you bowing up just now on an trivial, harmless comment.
ETA: And even if Keenum ain't woke either, he is more smooth with statements and politically.
It's not a "force out". It's what a lot of us hoped might happen.
Leach is not going to coddle these players. Times have changed. I can see him saying screw it and chillin with his family.
Oh, and for 5 million or more a year???? There will be a line of coaches wanting to show how much better they are than Leach, Mullen, etc......
This is head coaches we're talking.
Some of you act like we've been a powerhouse in the SEC for the last 1/2 century and anything less than 10-2 season is a failure. Fact is we've been at the bottom of the SEC for a majority of those years. We aren't Alabama/LSU/Georgia. Some of you let Ole Miss get into your heads. I knew when they hired Lane it would be just a stepping stone job for him. Let it play out this year and we'll see how they handle players transferring and having to rebuild their roster.
It's taken time at every stop for Leach to get things going. Year 1 was COVID and that screwed up everything. Then we had players not buying in and quitting/transferring out. In reality Leach is in year 2. We've all seen Leach try to run it more this year, but also realize both our #1 and #2 RBs have been beat up. The fact Leach went after Chis Parson means he knows a running QB will add that extra spark we need on offense. Unfortunately Will isn't a running QB, but he knows the offense and can be accurate. Receivers need to catch the ball too. Mullen could hardly recruit receivers that were 1/2 as reliable as ours now.
Now throw in NIL and how that affects recruiting. We aren't going to get those difference makers if they're offered more $$$$ at another school. The NIL is the wild West right now with hardly any rules. We just don't have the funds/fan support/population to compete against larger schools. For perspective the University of South FL has 50K students. We're at what 20-25K if that now. NIL has drastically affected how you recruit players now. It's also going to affect what coaches we're able to hire. If they don't have NIL money to play with they know the road will be tougher for them getting players. Smaller schools like ours need to start pushing for NIL deal caps to even the playing field.
Guys, more and more I'm convinced it comes down to $$$$. Plain and simple.
This is all relative to '21 (latest data available, Vandy doesn't report $): https://knightnewhousedata.org/fbs/sec
MSU Football Spending: $22.9m SEC Median: $36m MSU is dead last in football budget. Next lowest is Mizzou at $24m. OM was spending $38.3m - good for 3rd in the SEC in '21
MSU Spending on Coaches: $10.1m SEC Median: $11.4m MSU was only ahead of Mizzou and Arkansas.
The only way that changes is if we give more. More to the University. More to the Bulldog Club. More to the Bulldog Initiative.
Anyone on this board would take the HC job for that pay I just meant that when it comes to an actual established/proven coach they may see that (along with our previous coach of 2 years) as not something they want to uproot their lives for.
Edit: but if he leaves for other reasons such as some have mentioned that'd be different I'm just basing it off those that say if he doesn't beat OM he'll be fired.
It doesn't take a minimum of 5 years, but just because somebody hasn't peaked in 3 years doesn't mean it's time to burn it down. I'm not expecting Leach to make a jump. I think this is basically the peak and we'll probably have the same record next year with an easier schedule because our D is going to take a good step back. But I don't think it's hopeless and I don't think we burn $15M right now to hope we can upgrade.
I do too DD.......He's a great representative for the university but athletically he's just not gifted enough with arm strength to push the ball down the field or get out of the pocket and pick up yards.