Pitching stats. not much difference in our top two

Bednar and MacLeod are so close in stats and for all those saying Bednar is much better then the stats lie. If either one loses their game does it really matter who starts game one or game two?

Gotta hit and score runs!

Player era w-l app-gs cg sho sv ip h r er bb so 2b 3b hr ab b/avg wp hbp bk sfa sha
Bednar, Will 3.23 6-1 14-11 0 0/3 0 64.0 54 25 23 17 101 9 1 8 237 .228 2 4 1 2 1
MacLeod, Christian 3.60 5-4 15-15 0 0/2 0 70.0 62 34 28 24 94 6 0 13 266 .233 5 3 0 1 2
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Alford, Kole 0.00 0-0 1-0 0 0/0 0 0.1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 .500 0 0 0 0 0
Patrick, Chase 0.79 0-0 15-0 0 0/0 0 11.1 9 1 1 4 8 0 0 1 38 .237 4 1 0 0 1
Carmouche, Dylan 1.23 1-0 9-0 0 0/1 0 7.1 6 2 1 3 11 1 0 0 27 .222 1 1 0 1 0
Sims, Landon 1.45 3-0 18-0 0 0/3 8 37.1 20 6 6 13 74 5 0 0 131 .153 2 0 0 0 1
Stinnett, Parker 1.65 1-0 14-1 0 0/2 1 16.1 5 3 3 13 27 2 0 0 55 .091 7 4 1 0 0
Harding, Houston 2.64 6-2 17-5 0 0/1 0 44.1 37 17 13 13 45 7 0 5 165 .224 4 2 1 0 2
Smith, Cade 3.48 2-0 6-1 0 0/0 0 10.1 6 5 4 6 14 1 0 1 38 .158 0 1 0 0 0
Simmons, Stone 3.74 1-1 16-0 0 0/0 2 21.2 17 11 9 6 26 3 0 0 81 .210 1 1 0 0 1
Koestler, Carlisle 4.12 3-0 11-2 0 0/0 0 19.2 20 9 9 7 23 3 0 2 77 .260 3 3 0 1 1
Smith, Brandon 4.31 4-3 17-2 0 0/2 1 31.1 30 20 15 8 36 5 0 4 126 .238 4 1 0 1 1
Johnson, Preston 4.50 2-0 16-0 0 0/3 0 20.0 15 12 10 10 34 0 0 2 71 .211 0 3 0 1 0
Hunt, KC 4.85 0-0 13-0 0 0/2 0 13.0 14 9 7 7 14 2 0 1 50 .280 8 2 0 1 0
Tepper, Mikey 5.25 2-0 11-2 0 0/1 0 12.0 8 8 7 9 14 2 0 1 46 .174 6 0 2 0 0
Fristoe, Jackson 5.29 3-3 14-12 0 0/1 0 47.2 39 29 28 34 67 4 3 8 178 .219 5 3 1 0 1
Self, Riley 5.40 0-0 7-0 0 0/2 0 5.0 9 4 3 4 7 1 0 0 24 .375 0 0 0 0 0
Cerantola, Eric 5.71 0-1 10-4 0 0/0 0 17.1 13 11 11 11 24 0 1 2 63 .206 4 6 0 0 0
Forrester, Jaxen 6.00 0-0 3-0 0 0/1 0 3.0 2 2 2 2 1 1 0 0 10 .200 2 0 0 1 0
Tullar, Cam 6.63 0-0 21-0 0 0/1 1 19.0 22 14 14 10 25 5 0 1 76 .289 2 1 0 2 1
Lovett, Xavier 6.75 0-0 6-0 0 0/1 0 4.0 3 4 3 2 1 2 0 0 16 .188 1 1 0 0 0
Price, Spencer 7.36 1-0 9-0 0 0/1 0 7.1 5 6 6 5 13 0 0 2 28 .179 2 1 0 0 0
Talley, Drew 9.00 0-0 4-0 0 0/1 0 3.0 5 4 3 1 7 2 0 0 14 .357 0 0 0 0 0
Rokose, Davis 10.80 0-0 4-0 0 0/0 0 3.1 2 4 4 4 6 0 0 1 12 .167 0 1 0 0 0
Totals 3.87 40-15 55-55 0 7/7 13 488.2 404 240 210 214 673 61 5 52 1831 .221 63 39 6 11 12
Opponents 6.50 15-40 55-55 3 1/0 6 467.2 523 384 338 245 355 97 11 60 1868 .280 56 63 6 27 12
PB - Team (3), Tanner 2, Hancock 1, Opp (8). Pickoffs - Team (2), Harding 1, Patrick 1, Opp (1). SBA/ATT - Tanner (23-33), MacLeod (6-12), Bednar (7-9), Hancock (6-7), Patrick (0-3), Fristoe (1-3), Tepper (3-3), Harding (2-3), Cerantola (2-2), Johnson (2-2), Self (0-1), Hunt (0-1), Tullar (0-1), Talley (0-1), Stinnett (1-1), Smith, C. (1-1), Price (1-1), Sims (1-1), Carmouche (1-1), Simmons (1-1).

The biggest problem with Mac is he lets minor setbacks snowball into complete meltdowns.

It just seems like if he allows a run, then he's going to allow 3 more. His stuff isn't overpowering and he's more prone to the HR ball.

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Originally Posted by basedog

Bednar and MacLeod are so close in stats and for all those saying Bednar is much better then the stats lie. If either one loses their game does it really matter who starts game one or game two?

Gotta hit and score runs!

Player era w-l app-gs cg sho sv ip h r er bb so 2b 3b hr ab b/avg wp hbp bk sfa sha
Bednar, Will 3.23 6-1 14-11 0 0/3 0 64.0 54 25 23 17 101 9 1 8 237 .228 2 4 1 2 1
MacLeod, Christian 3.60 5-4 15-15 0 0/2 0 70.0 62 34 28 24 94 6 0 13 266 .233 5 3 0 1 2
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Alford, Kole 0.00 0-0 1-0 0 0/0 0 0.1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 2 .500 0 0 0 0 0
Patrick, Chase 0.79 0-0 15-0 0 0/0 0 11.1 9 1 1 4 8 0 0 1 38 .237 4 1 0 0 1
Carmouche, Dylan 1.23 1-0 9-0 0 0/1 0 7.1 6 2 1 3 11 1 0 0 27 .222 1 1 0 1 0
Sims, Landon 1.45 3-0 18-0 0 0/3 8 37.1 20 6 6 13 74 5 0 0 131 .153 2 0 0 0 1
Stinnett, Parker 1.65 1-0 14-1 0 0/2 1 16.1 5 3 3 13 27 2 0 0 55 .091 7 4 1 0 0
Harding, Houston 2.64 6-2 17-5 0 0/1 0 44.1 37 17 13 13 45 7 0 5 165 .224 4 2 1 0 2
Smith, Cade 3.48 2-0 6-1 0 0/0 0 10.1 6 5 4 6 14 1 0 1 38 .158 0 1 0 0 0
Simmons, Stone 3.74 1-1 16-0 0 0/0 2 21.2 17 11 9 6 26 3 0 0 81 .210 1 1 0 0 1
Koestler, Carlisle 4.12 3-0 11-2 0 0/0 0 19.2 20 9 9 7 23 3 0 2 77 .260 3 3 0 1 1
Smith, Brandon 4.31 4-3 17-2 0 0/2 1 31.1 30 20 15 8 36 5 0 4 126 .238 4 1 0 1 1
Johnson, Preston 4.50 2-0 16-0 0 0/3 0 20.0 15 12 10 10 34 0 0 2 71 .211 0 3 0 1 0
Hunt, KC 4.85 0-0 13-0 0 0/2 0 13.0 14 9 7 7 14 2 0 1 50 .280 8 2 0 1 0
Tepper, Mikey 5.25 2-0 11-2 0 0/1 0 12.0 8 8 7 9 14 2 0 1 46 .174 6 0 2 0 0
Fristoe, Jackson 5.29 3-3 14-12 0 0/1 0 47.2 39 29 28 34 67 4 3 8 178 .219 5 3 1 0 1
Self, Riley 5.40 0-0 7-0 0 0/2 0 5.0 9 4 3 4 7 1 0 0 24 .375 0 0 0 0 0
Cerantola, Eric 5.71 0-1 10-4 0 0/0 0 17.1 13 11 11 11 24 0 1 2 63 .206 4 6 0 0 0
Forrester, Jaxen 6.00 0-0 3-0 0 0/1 0 3.0 2 2 2 2 1 1 0 0 10 .200 2 0 0 1 0
Tullar, Cam 6.63 0-0 21-0 0 0/1 1 19.0 22 14 14 10 25 5 0 1 76 .289 2 1 0 2 1
Lovett, Xavier 6.75 0-0 6-0 0 0/1 0 4.0 3 4 3 2 1 2 0 0 16 .188 1 1 0 0 0
Price, Spencer 7.36 1-0 9-0 0 0/1 0 7.1 5 6 6 5 13 0 0 2 28 .179 2 1 0 0 0
Talley, Drew 9.00 0-0 4-0 0 0/1 0 3.0 5 4 3 1 7 2 0 0 14 .357 0 0 0 0 0
Rokose, Davis 10.80 0-0 4-0 0 0/0 0 3.1 2 4 4 4 6 0 0 1 12 .167 0 1 0 0 0
Totals 3.87 40-15 55-55 0 7/7 13 488.2 404 240 210 214 673 61 5 52 1831 .221 63 39 6 11 12
Opponents 6.50 15-40 55-55 3 1/0 6 467.2 523 384 338 245 355 97 11 60 1868 .280 56 63 6 27 12
PB - Team (3), Tanner 2, Hancock 1, Opp (8). Pickoffs - Team (2), Harding 1, Patrick 1, Opp (1). SBA/ATT - Tanner (23-33), MacLeod (6-12), Bednar (7-9), Hancock (6-7), Patrick (0-3), Fristoe (1-3), Tepper (3-3), Harding (2-3), Cerantola (2-2), Johnson (2-2), Self (0-1), Hunt (0-1), Tullar (0-1), Talley (0-1), Stinnett (1-1), Smith, C. (1-1), Price (1-1), Sims (1-1), Carmouche (1-1), Simmons (1-1).

I don't know if the stats bear this out, but my impression is that Mac's good outings are better than Bednars and his bad outings are worse. That's the main reaosn I would have wanted Mac first, as presumably we'll have a little more margin of error if he does come out off.

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

The biggest problem with Mac is he lets minor setbacks snowball into complete meltdowns.

It just seems like if he allows a run, then he's going to allow 3 more. His stuff isn't overpowering and he's more prone to the HR ball.

I agree. It is not that stats lie it is that stats don't tell the whole story in any sport. Stats are just a single KPI while there are 100s of factors in any sport or anything you want to trend performance.

Both have problems when the walk batters or they walk them. I do agree the Mac seems to let it bother him him more than Bednar. I also think Mac is a better match facing 4 or 5 lefty batters.
Let's hope the umpire has a "forgiving" strike zone.

Hopefully both will go 5 plus.

Both give up too many HRs, esp Mac, but against GOOD teams.

Fingers crossed, they have good location and get the borderline strikes.

Mac is a long ball waiting to happen. He's been disappointing in comparison to expectations this year. I think he's actually lost a little velo on his FB since last year. He dang sure didn't pick any up.