Lane Kiffin could have signed many, but only wanted "elite" talent...

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I may be wrong but I think you can only roll over five spots max a year. You can't just pool spots if you think there are 30 legit 4-5 star recruits you can the next year.

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That's my understanding as well Todd...

I'll give Kiffin this.

With the transfer portal in full bloom, it does make more sense to hold spots for transfers rather than signing players you don't think can play for you.

Taking developmental guys that don't really fit doesn't make any sense to me in this day and age.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'll give Kiffin this.

With the transfer portal in full bloom, it does make more sense to hold spots for transfers rather than signing players you don't think can play for you.

Taking developmental guys that don't really fit doesn't make any sense to me in this day and age.

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You can't build a long sustaining program doing that. However Griffin isn't there for the long run.

Congrats Ole Miss. you just hired your very own Joe Moorhead. Good luck!!

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

Congrats Ole Miss. you just hired your very own Joe Moorhead. Good luck!!

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Lane Luke? or Lanevester?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'll give Kiffin this.

With the transfer portal in full bloom, it does make more sense to hold spots for transfers rather than signing players you don't think can play for you.

Taking developmental guys that don't really fit doesn't make any sense to me in this day and age.

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I think it's pretty hard to find true impact guys in the portal because you still have to compete with blue bloods for them and they aren't going to spend their final year at Ole Miss if they can go somewhere like Ohio State or Georgia.

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Originally Posted by defiantdog

Kiffin has yet to talk about the future of the team and keeps saying he's going to get better players NEXT TIME. I don't think he's humbled enough to recruit Mississippi. In his mind..... he's too good to sit down and talk to 3* players. Leach knows what he's doing. He's more focused on the team and organizing a structure. That's why he has a Recruiting Team. And he holds them accountable. Kiffin is collecting a paycheck.

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Nah ... he just needs a few phone numbers from Freeze and presto !!!

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Originally Posted by Jack Lambert

You can't build a long sustaining program doing that. However Griffin isn't there for the long run.

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You can't build a long sustaining program by signing bad players either.

May as well make your NOW team better if given the option. Signing good HS players is certainly the preference though

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I think it's pretty hard to find true impact guys in the portal because you still have to compete with blue bloods for them and they aren't going to spend their final year at Ole Miss if they can go somewhere like Ohio State or Georgia.

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No doubt, but it's still preferable to signing bad HS players.

That's one thing I'm excited about with Leach is that I think we're going to be a real factor in the transfer portal for QBs & WRs every year because we have such an extreme product to sell.

We're literally the only major conference team that can offer a QB the chance to throw 50 times & a WR the chance for 80+ catches.

That's going to be attractive

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

You can't build a long sustaining program by signing bad players either.

May as well make your NOW team better if given the option. Signing good HS players is certainly the preference though

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But define "bad." Two star guys like Calhoun and McKinney? There are several solid three star guys that could be developed into good players that can help your program and create class/roster balance, as opposed to destroying your roster balance and taking 1 year grad transfer guys.

I'm all for taking no doubt transfers like Costello, but undersigning by 5 guys to rely on the portal will throw off your class balance.

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Originally Posted by confucius say

But define "bad." Two star guys like Calhoun and McKinney? There are several solid three star guys that could be developed into good players that can help your program and create class/roster balance, as opposed to destroying your roster balance and taking 1 year grad transfer guys.

I'm all for taking no doubt transfers like Costello, but undersigning by 5 guys to rely on the portal will throw off your class balance.

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I mean, you have to win enough in the first 3 years for class balance to even matter.

You think JoMo wishes he went with class balance or more impact NOW players?

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I mean, you have to win enough in the first 3 years for class balance to even matter.

You think JoMo wishes he went with class balance or more impact NOW players?

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He did both. See Tommy Stevens and Isiah Zuber. The real problem was he sucked as a coach and would have underachieved even if we had LSU's talent.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

No doubt, but it's still preferable to signing bad HS players.

That's one thing I'm excited about with Leach is that I think we're going to be a real factor in the transfer portal for QBs & WRs every year because we have such an extreme product to sell.

We're literally the only major conference team that can offer a QB the chance to throw 50 times & a WR the chance for 80+ catches.

That's going to be attractive

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Yes we have an extreme but at some point I'm hoping we don't have to rely on the transfer portal and JUCO's as much.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I mean, you have to win enough in the first 3 years for class balance to even matter.

You think JoMo wishes he went with class balance or more impact NOW players?

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Lack of going after NOW players was the least of his worries. I actually like the way he did it. Good recruiting classes with balance mixed with a splash of instant impact portal guys.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Lane Luke? or Lanevester?

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LaMo

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Originally Posted by shoeless joe

LaMo

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Pronounced Lame-O?

Wow that video of Kiffin is awful. I speak in front of medium to large groups quite often and while I may not be the best I know what you have to do to motivate and get people interested in what you're saying. The guy makes poor eye, contact, no voice projection, monotone, poor body language and facial expressions. I could go on but I know y'all all see it too. I didn't realize he was so dull and unenthusiastic. I wouldn't want to play for or let my kid play for a coach like that.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Wow that video of Kiffin is awful. I speak in front of medium to large groups quite often and while I may not be the best I know what you have to do to motivate and get people interested in what you're saying. The guy makes poor eye, contact, no voice projection, monotone, poor body language and facial expressions. I could go on but I know y'all all see it too. I didn't realize he was so dull and unenthusiastic. I wouldn't want to play for or let my kid play for a coach like that.

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He can't carry that back to a team meeting can he? How do lead with that kind of demeanor, who would follow that?

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

He did both. See Tommy Stevens and Isiah Zuber. The real problem was he sucked as a coach and would have underachieved even if we had LSU's talent.

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Truth. Joe is not P5 head coaching material. I doubt he ever will be.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I didn't realize he was so dull and unenthusiastic..

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This is the massive misconception that the media & twitter have created. He has no personality & I think he has self esteem issues.

Twitter & Saban not letting him speak created an alternate reality perception of him

I'm honestly not sure he makes it to year 4