Right under the map. It states quite clearly that outside labs are also reporting positives to them, they are required too. The number of tests done is not required to be reported. Sorry to throw a little water on your fire. Just calm down.
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So this is the difference, my parents never filed for bankruptcy, they gutted it out and payed their bills on time and this is the same work ethic they instilled in me. They did not look for a short cut, a quick way out nor a bailout. We lived within our means. The mindset is the difference.
Many years ago, mankind used to work from before daylight to after sunset 7 days per week. Due to Biblical principles (Moses - the 10 commandments), instituted a 6 day work week and then in the early 1900s Saturday was also given as a day of rest from labor/work/job. We work 5 days per week now or 40 hours per week (at least that is what we get paid for) and you want to reduce it even further? Does technology redefine man into some worthless pansy? Common, even in a technological world - like today and in the future - we will still gave to design devices/systems, manufacture and repair them (even with redundancy built in). Man has to do something, we can't sit on our thumbs all day and respond to these forums. Besides, idle hands are the devils playground.
Again, you want government run goods and services since we the people are too stupid to create them ourselves. You view everything as a right, an entitlement, and nothing is to be EARNED or worked for. Once you tax those who do have into oblivion (that is you and me today), there is no more money and then what? All incentive to EARN is gone and we will all file for welfare. Who in the hell is going to pay for it? Go to Canada and see how good their healthcare is - their people schedule surgery in the US by the way.
The issue is there will be a corupt group regardless of the structure of govt. Our's just happens to limit it to a degree. We certainly aren't as bad off as China or Russia are. Another issue with Uni Healthcare is someone has to pay for it somewhere. If the govt is paying for it it will look just like the VA hospitals do.
If you haven't read up on VA hospitals I would suggest you take a look. It is awful. Patients aren't getting seen, appointments are delayed sometimes by months. People have died waiting to actually get something done at VA hospitals. Because anytime you are talking about a govt. run program bureaucracy will take over.
Look at the DMV, is that what you want to experience when you visit a hospital?
I agree there are things we should be doing or could be doing but Universal Healthcare isn't going to solve the poverty issue.
Taking from people that have and giving to people that don't have without making them do anything for that does not work. You can't force everybody to be equal.
This can be summarized by an the old story about the teacher who was going to prove that to his class by averaging their grades. The people that studied hard who made an A were given a B and the people who did not and made a D were given a B. Eventually the people who studied hard quit because why would they study for an A to only get a C while they watch others not study at all and get the same C.
Wow this forum really moved in another direction.
It is cheating the system, someone has to either pay or absorb the debt. It is a shortcut. Business is a 2 way street, I have an object to sell and you have money to buy the object. It is an even bidirectional deal. You get some object to enhance your life and I get some money to allow me to also purchase some object to enhance my life. When someone bails on their responsibility and cheats the system and declares bankruptcy you short-circuit the systems and someone gets screwed. Prices of goods are increased to hedge against this threat - a percentage of people will declare bankruptcy - it harms the system for all of us. This is not how capitalism is supposed to work. We are to ALL pull our weight. This is the only way it will work properly (morality is a given here for the same reasons).
One thing I learned the past year, MD Anderson in Houston is full of folks from Canada who want great treatment. Hell, I?ve never seen more people from other countries than at MD Anderson. The US healthcare is light years better than any government run healthcare from any country.
This is incorrect. If you want money in exchange for providing a good or service, all you have to do is not provide the good or service unless you get money. The people that get stiffed in a bankruptcy proceeding just about always people who voluntarily extended credit to someone or a some entity and did so knowing the potential for bankruptcy is part of the deal.
There are certainly people and entities who abuse the system, and there are certainly people and entities who don't necessarily abuse the system but act imprudently in a way that is more or less equivalent to abusing the system, but filing bankruptcy itself is not abuse nor it is inconsistent with capitalism. If anything, bankruptcy is a vital part of capitalism because it creates a structured way to handle insolvency events and also incentivizes risk taking by allowing people to take risks without worrying that they will end up in a virtual debtor's prison, just like limited liability business entities are not short cuts or abuses of the system (although some pepole abuse them).
My dad had complications from a disease he got when he was 7 (labeled a pre-existing condition by insurance companies) and became disabled and unable to work. Medical bills piled up and we had no way to pay. But yea, we took the "easy way out." Sad to say, but the only reason my mother is able at all to financially climb out of the hole is that he passed away as medical bills kept piling.
Healthcare companies refused to cover him. Freedom and all that. Caused a 15 year old and a 9 year old to live in a family in bankruptcy. Just to protect your free market.
You're missing the point about working. We don't have to if we don't want to. I've worked many a 50 hr and 60 hr weeks while in college just to pay my bills. You're preaching toughness to the wrong guy. I've lived it. I've felt it. I don't want anyone to know that pain. It ****ing sucks.
Yes I view life as a right. Why shouldn't I? Entitlement is a buzzword. It's something you've let fool your perspective. And no, you don't have to tax you or me into oblivion to do it. That's the myth. That whole Sanders 52% tax schlock doesn't apply to people making what I make. That's to the million a year makers. I'm not saying go all the way and make everyone equal, that will never work. I'm saying raise the floor. Sure maybe that cuts the ceiling down some. To borrow the grade scale argument: Right now we're ensuring people have the ability to make a 400 or higher out of 100 on a test by sacrificing preventing people from making below a 60 and allowing them to bottom out to 0. By cutting back to 250-300 we could make that 60 minimum happen.
And rich people in Canada do that because our top end is better. We take the best care of the rich in the world healthcare wise. Bottom end, no way.
America is starting to put out healthcare priority guidelines for when it gets Italy bad here in about a week
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/21/81964...YBwGyYk3rwbLGU
I think this is pretty dumb, but I can't help but think of Walmarts having a couple hundred customers at the same time. Plus with that many customers in-and-out all day, the chances of Walmart employees being exposed is pretty big imo. Not sure how you could solve this problem and people still be able to stock up though
Everybody sees where you're going here. You're going for the aha gotcha moment but that doesn't mean anything. Nobody will agree with everything a President does but that doesn't mean that said President is a bad President. My wife doesn't agree with everything I say or do but we are still married....
Nope. They guy I am talking to obviously feels very strongly about bankruptcies. He insulted another poster parents over it. He said another posters parents had poor work ethics over it.
So I am curious to hear his answer. He obviously feels very strongly about bankruptcies and the work ethic of those that do it. He called it cheating and bad for capitalism. He obviously has strong opinions on it
I asked him a valid question after his posts. He can answer for himself
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Seems fair. Make someone else pay for it.
ETA: Also don't take this and twist my words. The way you phrased it was 100% saying screw it, take advantage because it benefits me and I don't give a damn about consequences.
You weren't defending how bankruptcies are the only way out sometimes. You fully threw the cheat the system blanket over the whole topic with your comment and now will use that as your ammunition if someone argues with you. But you'll base your argument on the original comment made. Not your blanket statement. I realize now yours was simple bait for you to pounce on.
So what if they are misleading or aren't 100% accurate or don't paint the full picture? In this case partly because of the small sample size.
Do they benefit all or only one side? Or do they harm the collective end goal and all the in-betweens on how to attain that goal?