Rangers names under fire for brutality. What other names must be removed?
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Rangers names under fire for brutality. What other names must be removed?
The Rangers should be fine because, while their history may include some incidents like most all long standing law enforcements, they are known & celebrated for positive things.
While I am for the change of the flag & I'm Ok with the removal of Gator Bait due to the history of the term being made public, the removal of the Texas Rangers would be crossing the line.
Redskins, Yankees, Volunteers, Indians, Chiefs, Braves, Seminoles...
Gator Bait removal is crossing the line.
All screwed using their vacuous logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
Nobody demanded that though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Maybe, but those groups would have to push for the removal of those names.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
The reason that those names haven't been removed yet is that, while the SJWs are pushing for the removal, the actual Indians are not. If the Indian nations rather than the SJWs stood up & called for the removal of those names, they would be changed. However, I've spoken to a few Indian friends about the Redskins & it's their favorite team & they like the name.
The slavery & confederate stuff gets cancelled because the offended party actually stands up against it.
I can see both sides of this, but like the other poster said, that's Florida did that on their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
You could add Fighting Irish to this as well, but, again, unless the actual Irish find it offensive & call for it's removal, it won't go anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
I doubt Florida did that on their own. I still think that one is an extreme response because it's not a "unique" phrase that you might not say in everybay gator hunting anyway and it CLEARLY isn't meant as a reference to the shared imagery when used in a football fasion. It's pretty obviously tied to Tiger Bait or any other numerous "bait" cheers where the intent is that we're going to devour you on the field.
Unless you could tie it directly to the cheer having UF ties pre-integration and came about as a way to insult black players on other teams then I don't think removing it was necessary.
I mean would you want to get rid of the Maroon and White cheer b/c the word "white" is included?
Seminoles have the explicit blessing and support of the tribe.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
RebelsQuote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
The insanity continues......
Drew Brees had done more for the black community of New Orleans than anyone and they made him out to be the devil incarnate bc of his opinion. So the known for positive things argument is invalidQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Just read 1984. The 'memory hole' is happening .. just a little late.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
Current 'higher education' has/is leading the way.
Consider .. Many MLS' Listings won't call the main bedroom the 'master,' many newspapers, including all Gannett, will no longer publish mug shots, too many black and brown faces. Instagram will no longer allow actual federal crime statistics because they don't tell the 'message' of white on black 'hate crimes.
The ignorant have actually defaced Lincoln statues.
Meanwhile, North Dakota University had vast majority of Sioux Nation supporting them and their 'fighting Sioux' name and logo. They just didn't have the political pull of FSU and now, they are the 'fighting hawks.'Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Sorry, it today's 'woke culture,' Seminoles days are numbered.
That's not an accurate story of how it happened. The government of the Sioux tribe said no.^ The government of the Seminole tribe said yes. In neither case did the opinions of tribe members matter. The NCAA has consistently said they will defer to the opinions of the tribal governments and followed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiscuitEater
As a further example, the Choctaw government has OK'd Mississippi College, who has less political pull than any D1 school, so they can keep it.
The NCAA is absolutely terrible in so many ways, but this is one example of applying a rule fairly. Any school at any level can use the tribe of a tribe ONLY IF the tribal government says OK. If a random nobody gets the OK, they can have it. If Florida State were to lose the Seminole government's blessing, the name would be gone.
^ - There are actually federally recognized multiple Sioux tribes and only 1 actually said no, but that's enough in the eyes of the NCAA.