Agree with that. Much easier to block 3 and pass vs blue bloods than to try and run vs a loaded box
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I was not saying it was ok to lose the egg. But if I could pick one to lose it was this one. They know what it is and they know they were lucky. The cute shit about got Lane beat by a team with 43 scholarship players.
All of y?all should stop pointing to the Vandy game as some black mark. It was a miracle to win it with the OL we had. One OL can make the whole bunch look awful. And that happened. It takes all 11 every snap to win
We need to run better but to me it's we need to be more effective. Our YPC are pitiful for facing a 3 man front as much as we have. Leach's offenses typically average more than what we have right now- and in year one once again he struggled to run the ball same as us this year.
And that's exactly what we desperately need. For way too long because we were so run heavy we had a reputation as a place where you couldn't get to the NFL if you played receiver here. We will start putting WR's in the league and in the meantime we'll keep recruiting like we have.
I will agree that the OL roster issues in the Vandy game have gotten overlooked, and I will own some of that too. I also thought we did a good job early in the game of working around some of those issues and then got away from it as the game went on for whatever reason. I'm sure Mason made some adjustments, but still. The second half of that game was UGLY.
But that was my point, I feel like the Vandy game to now is a nice "look how far we have come" barometer. Even if we have scored 24 in both of the last two games just as we did against Vandy, the level of competency in which we have done so definitely seems higher. We've just looked more comfortable in general, and I'm sure the OL having more regulars available is part of that, but I think Rogers and the receivers have improved too.
I am not willing to anoint Leach or anyone else on our offensive coaching staff kind of Jack shit right now. We have not been good offensively.
But I am also capable of reviewing track record, taking circumstances into account, and reading the nuances of this situation.
Both year 1s Leach has had, they scored 25 points or less per game. And every other year at those programs after year one (2001-2009 at TTU and 2013-2019 at WSU) they scored 30-42 PPG. Both year ones are his worst offensively in his career, and every single one of the other 16 seasons, Leach?s offenses have been somewhere between good and elite. Every. Single. Time. That is his track record. We are living through it right now.
You also have to consider we are playing with an absolutely insane amount of freshmen- got to be more than anyone in America. True freshman at QB. Our top 2 RBs are true freshmen. Our leading WR is a true freshman. Our starting LT is a RS freshman and basically a Wiley veteran compared to the other guys I mentioned. We also did not have spring practice and had very limited offseason workout reps.
Judge Leach after next year- not in the middle of an abridged year one.
Dude. Teams play cover 3 every week is it a magic bullet too? What you are thinking it is and what we are getting are 2 different things.
Being rational, take all Xs and Os talk out of the equation. Do you honestly believe that if the 3-8 was the death of the air raid that this would be the first time he has seen it?
Teams play some version of a head up nose and 2 5s or 4is every week too. Or a 3 a shade and 6s. Happened since Bear Bryant came
Up with the techniques. You are misinformed or willfully ignorant. We are not seeing a prevent defense like y?all say. Just bc their is a 3 man front does not mean aw shucks just hand it off!! Running inside zone vs a 0 and 2 4is with free running LBs is a waste of time.
Now could he had more add adapt with more of a running game? Yes. I think he should. We agree there. And to his credit he has done it before. But if you look at his best rushing years they come with an experienced QB and a draft pick or two on the OL. And yes, the SEC is a different world than the Pac and the B12.
Did we not score more, because of scheme or because of execution?
How long did we go in the game before we figured out we had all the time in the world to let pass plays develop. Do you think that is because of coaching or because of youth at position of QB and receiver also?
You are a coach. When you get guys from Jr Hi are they ready? Do you have them ready the first game, 3rd, 6th 10th, next year?
Tell us all about it.
The thing is, some of the folks saying the system won't work, I just wonder if they EVER stayed up and watched Washington State games in the Pac 12? The numbers they put up were ridiculous. Will we have trouble putting up big numbers against the elite defenses in the SEC like WSU had trouble with Washington? Yes, I think so, but there are only a few SEC defenses these days that are in the same category as Washington was for most of Leach's tenure at WSU. Heck, we just threw for 336 yards against Georgia who is supposed to be an elite defense. That is WAY better production than the last time Mullen took an offense over to Athens. If you don't like the offense because there isn't enough running fine, but the offense will put up very good numbers against the vast majority of defenses we face once the players are seasoned in the season. As I've said repeatedly, you don't need 5 star QBs and WRs for the Leach system to be successful, you just need reasonably talented, disciplined guys that have been in the system multiple years and know it inside and out.
I'm not calling it a Prevent Defense. Why do you keep saying that? Coach34 calls it a prevent in a sarcastic way. Teams are rushing 3 and dropping 8 into zone coverage for the majority of the game, every game since LSU. They are copying and adapting the template that was laid out by Jimmy Lake at Washington. It's basically the same defense that shut down Leach 7 straight Apple Cups. It's the same defense that Vandy used to hold us to 200 yards. (yes i realize we had LT issues that game). If you can't agree on facts, we can't have a discussion.
I just find it funny how we can think we can judge a multi time national coach of the year winner he cannot coach all of a sudden.
What he is doing will either evolve/adapt, improve and work or die out. We can agree on that.....but It is not far off as it is rn. If you are damn good at what you do, it does not matter if they know it is coming. And we will get to that point. He has the trigger man. And when he finds it, he has historically won at places that never have won