Dillon Gabriel now in the portal. Time to go get our QB.
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Dillon Gabriel now in the portal. Time to go get our QB.
We better pony up some cheddar!!! WE NEED HIM IN A BAD WAY
Rumor on the internet is Oregon
National guys say it is down to us and Oregon. Oregon will not overpay for him but we need to make a strong offer and harp on the familiarity of Lebby.Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
In my opinion this is the one time you overpay for a QB. DG's relationship with Lebby and the mastery of his offense would be invaluable during an installation/rebuilding situation.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
You will get no disagreement from me on that. I agree that this is probably the one time that overpaying is 100% worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Not sure what you mean by this. Why would Oregon "not overpay"? They need a QB too and have more money than us don't they? Also, even if they "wouldn't overpay", would we?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Ultimately it comes down to what DG wants. Do you want to have a good season playing for a coach you like? State. Do you want to get national attention, have a decent shot to make the playoffs, and a shot to prove you can succeed without Lebby? Oregon. That's ignoring NIL. We don't know what he wants out of life so it's hard to know what he'll do.
Hopefully Oregon goes all in on Cam Ward.
Not sure why we wanna pay big for 1 year. We need a guy that has at least 2 years
Apparently Ohio state hasQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Pay big for this superstar now and worry about 2025 in a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We would overpay. Oregon would not because they are likely in on multiple big name transfers: Ward, McCord, Moore, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
But the team is much more than a qb away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
We freed up a good amount of money with letting Tulu go just for this. Smart move on our part.
Doesn't matter, we have to get our QB. Could lead to other players coming.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
A good QB who knows the system covers up A TON of holes. Look at FSU, cruising to the playoffs with Travis and he gets injured and you see that they cannot really move the ball without him.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Heck, put Travis on Iowa this year and they are in the playoffs. A good QB can take you from average to good and from good to great.
Never commit much money to a slot receiverQuote:
Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless
It's not a one time payment. Even if we got a guy with 3 years we would have to pay him next year too. Dart is getting paid 3 years by OM.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I also think we need to throw some good money around for a solid backup. As we have seen with FSU, having a backup who knows the system and is at least competent at the position can make a world of difference.
Correct. Same with RB unless they are elite.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
And you're right about qb too. Have to get that position right and then the rest will start to fall in place.
So why not spend the big check on a guy with 2 years left? Target someone that's transferred alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We could over spend for Gabriel for 1 year. Or get a young guy to compete with parson, flowers, wright and save hundreds of thousands of dollars to add another 10 players to build for 25. And if Gabriel gets all the snaps next year, that?s a lot of experience you?re not letting a young guy have. 6 may be the ceiling next year with Gabriel. I?m not arguing one way or the other just laying out the two routes.
Gabriel is the perfect bridge QB to help smooth over the cracks of next year. Now, that may mean 6-6 or 7-5, but looking at the roster now and considering the schedule, I will take that right now.
I would think part of the reason we hired Lebby was the thought of him bringing Gabriel to MSU.
Need to make it happen.
The criteria should be simple...Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
2 years of eligibility at least
Previous transfer
We can spend $X on Gabriel in 2024 and $X on someone else in 2025, or $2X on someone else a ross both years. What's the difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Correct. You spend the same amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I like the idea on one and done. State has gotten too loyal to the players to the decrement of the program
We are talking about a QB that's in good with Lebby, knows his system like the back of his hand and can help teach it.
This is a no brainer guys. C'mon.
You overpay and don't think twice about it.
It's like getting Minshew for a year instead of Costello.
Again, no brainer.
Well to be fair, this isn't Madden. First, a high quality QB has to hit the portal. Second, you actually have to land the second player and he has to fit within your system.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
My preference is to find a guy that can step in and play and have more than one year of eligibility, but those guys are even more expensive than the one year guys like Gabriel.
Ward apparently may get 2 million from Ohio State.
That probably is the most apt comparison. I would not go Caleb Williams comp but Minshew coming with Leach would be a very good comp. I will echo your sentiments, this is a no brainer. You go get him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Bc we're gonna suck with or without Gabriel next season imoQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
What's not computing for you? The only reason we have a shot at someone like Gabriel is the Lebby connection.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And after Gabriel's number nosedive next season behind our porous oline, getting another big name will be tough.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I guess we just disagree on what we have returning. Gabriel can't save our rosterQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Mark my words, we'll finished ranked next year if we land GabrielQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Getting a big name will always be tough. Sheesh.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I guess you missed the memo, but rosters are year to year now. We aren't UGA.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Could landing Gabriel draw others on board?
I'll stick with my criteria on all transfers, not just qb...Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
2 years or more of eligibility
Previous transfers preferred.
I'm trying to field a good team in 2025 bc I think next season is useless