Sunday Morning QB- Chapped Ass Edition

1. I hate working on Saturday. Utterly despise it. I dont mind the 6 day/70 hour work week that is coaching in season- but I got to be able to enjoy my Saturday to rest and recharge. We had our "Egg Bowl" last night and let's just say State played better than we did last night. How bad was it? I have a call that means "DON'T MOVE". Dont Fu***** MOVE. It's called Black Penguin. We dont have any playcall for a penguin. So in addition to it being the "dont move" play- what would you even do on a play called penguin?????? Guess what we did last night? Instead of getting the 5 yards for them jumping offsides on a critical drive- we moveddddddddddddd. It was that kind of night.

2. Welllllll- we threw it more. Everybody wanted more passes and you got it. 29 passes to 21 runs. Passing solves everything doesnt it?

3. Its just a poor job all around offensively. The OC is to blame because ultimately- he has to get the guys in something that works. Will is to blame- he is not playing well at all. You can see he is not comfortable with all the moving around he has to do in this offense. Lots of underthrows. The OL is bad. They arent picking up stunts and twists. The WR's arent looking for the ball when the QB is ready to deliver it. They arent in the spot the QB expects them to be in. Nothing right now looks good about us offensively. One play that stood out to me yesterday was the swing pass we threw to Marks and of course he immediately got tackled. We threw it to the trips side and the WR's were running routes- not blocking. Tulu was running a wheel route. Either Rogers didnt make the correct read and give the routes time to develop- OR- the WR's didnt know what the hell the playcall was. But either way the offense is not on the page and it happens alot. That's garbage.

4. Defensively? Yesterday reminded me of the old John McKay quote- "We can't stop the pass or the run but otherwise we're in great shape"

5. I've never seen a team pass drop their LB's the way we do. Our guys are dropping to 15 yards. It's like we are defending the Mike Leach Airbone out there. Daniels just kept hitting guys underneath and they would get yardage. Then we would man up and they just ran simple Hitch/Fade Mirror hitting Nabors for a couple of TD's. Daniels couldnt go 31/37 against air but I'll be damned if we didnt make him look like an AA out there. Holy crap that was bad pass coverage.

6. Stop calling for Parsons. If he was the dude he wouldnt be 3rd string right now. The outlook is Wright likely being the QB in 24. Could that change? Absolutely. But if any change is to be made at QB its going to be Wright. But what has to change is the offense needs to get on the same page. It's a complete cluster**** right now and that cant happen at an SEC program. Nothing needs to be added- get better at what you do because right now we arent good at anything.

7. White helmets still suck

HailState

8. The coaches are shit. We're screwed.

9. Ole Miss may win the west. We're screwed.

Arnett wasn't ready to be a head coach. Mike Wright needs to take over the offense.

Stop calling for Parsons

If he isn't any good, why did we sign him?

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Originally Posted by AROB44

Stop calling for Parsons

If he isn't any good, why did we sign him?

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He is a dual threat freshman QB that is recovering from an injury. Give him time. No one, and I mean no one expected him to play this year.

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Originally Posted by AROB44

Stop calling for Parsons

If he isn't any good, why did we sign him?

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Parson not Parsons

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Originally Posted by AROB44

Stop calling for Parsons

If he isn't any good, why did we sign him?

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Because he didn?t want to play for Florida State maybe?

Who knows.

But Lane is sitting there in Oxford with 3 capable Starters and we can?t find one. Does anyone think Ole Miss keeps getting these talented QBs to transfer in if Kiffin ain?t their Coach?

We should have thrown money at Malzhan if we wanted to be Vanilla State University! At least his offense is consistent!

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Originally Posted by Dawgface

8. The coaches are shit. We're screwed.

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This is fact!

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

Because he didn?t want to play for Florida State maybe?

Who knows.

But Lane is sitting there in Oxford with 3 capable Starters and we can?t find one. Does anyone think Ole Miss keeps getting these talented QBs to transfer in if Kiffin ain?t their Coach?

We should have thrown money at Malzhan if we wanted to be Vanilla State University! At least his offense is consistent!

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With the money they spent on QBs this off-season, let throw this question out there. Everyone knows they tried hard to get RaRa and Tulu from our squad. But why, if they were hell bent on getting transfer QBs, did Lane not come after Rogers??

Again Will is a great kid, but he was offered by Joe to get Mingo. It backfired in a few ways..

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Originally Posted by MBDawg601

9. Ole Miss may win the west. We're screwed.

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Enough with the BS already, OM doesn't have the D to win win the West, much less finish 4-4 in the SEC. I agree that the West is "down" this year and it's unfortunate that we don't appear to be in position to capitalize. But stop acting like OM is ready to "walk on water."

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Originally Posted by MBDawg601

9. Ole Miss may win the west. We're screwed.

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You can be pissed about our performance but don’t be delusional. Jaxon Fart is not running for 100 yards on Bama and Judkins still looks terrible. No way they come close to winning the West.

I?ll give the ol a little pass because they haven?t faced stunts in 3 years. A mobile qb would help them a ton.

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Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless

I?ll give the ol a little pass because they haven?t faced stunts in 3 years. A mobile qb would help them a ton.

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I am genuinely interested in why some people think that. How would a mobile QB help them? I mean I guess instead of giving up 9 sacks we would only give up 5? Our O Line is trash and they are coached by two guys who suck.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I am genuinely interested in why some people think that. How would a mobile QB help them? I mean I guess instead of giving up 9 sacks we would only give up 5? Our O Line is trash and they are coached by two guys who suck.

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A running qb would at least make dlinemen maintain lane integrity. DEs can just run around the edge without any worry of a qb taking off in the area he left open

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I am genuinely interested in why some people think that. How would a mobile QB help them? I mean I guess instead of giving up 9 sacks we would only give up 5? Our O Line is trash and they are coached by two guys who suck.

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Forces the defenders to play a step slower to make sure they don?t lose contain on the edges. That?s why you see barbay keep trying to roll will out some even know it?s a weak point for him. If I?m a dc right now with will at qb I?m bringing 5 every time and telling my outside contain to get up field hard because he isn?t a threat to get outside.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

A running qb would at least make dlinemen maintain lane integrity. DEs can just run around the edge without any worry of a qb taking off in the area he left open

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Mahomes would struggle behind our o-line.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

A running qb would at least make dlinemen maintain lane integrity. DEs can just run around the edge without any worry of a qb taking off in the area he left open

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But there is one main problem with that….WRIGHT CANNOT THROW. Teams will just stack the box, blitz the LBs up the middle and contain on the edge.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Mahomes would struggle behind our o-line.

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Of course any qb would have some struggles, but a good qb would at least make some plays. Will has no shot behind out line right now, so our team has no shot at winning

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

But there is one main problem with that….WRIGHT CANNOT THROW. Teams will just stack the box, blitz the LBs up the middle and contain on the edge.

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This seems overstated. Wright playing on vandy with bad coaching had a 134 passer rating last year. Will had a 139 passer rating last year with a college football HOF coach

The perfect thread title!! The way we all feel I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

But there is one main problem with that?.WRIGHT CANNOT THROW. Teams will just stack the box, blitz the LBs up the middle and contain on the edge.

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11/28 103 yards 0 TDs and 5 sacks

The only reason LSU didn't stack the box is that they didn't need too to stop our run. They didn't keep safeties back because they feared Wills 39% comp %

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

But there is one main problem with that?.WRIGHT CANNOT THROW. Teams will just stack the box, blitz the LBs up the middle and contain on the edge.

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Wright never had an 11 for 28 game last year. Stop with your bullcrap

C34, I still feel you're taking it easy on the staff. You understood way more than I did watching that game, and I saw terrible coaching on all sides. I think you have level 5 alarm bells going off watching our coaching decisions, but you're pulling punches because you think it's best for State to not pile on.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

But there is one main problem with that….WRIGHT CANNOT THROW. Teams will just stack the box, blitz the LBs up the middle and contain on the edge.

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He completed 57% of his passes last year. Where does this bogus narrative come from?

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

But there is one main problem with that?.WRIGHT CANNOT THROW. Teams will just stack the box, blitz the LBs up the middle and contain on the edge.

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Dude we've won 8 games with relf and Fitz. Good OCs figure it out

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

But there is one main problem with that?.WRIGHT CANNOT THROW. Teams will just stack the box, blitz the LBs up the middle and contain on the edge.

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How do you know Wright can?t throw? There?s no definitive answer. Cause it?s made up. We?ve yet to see him get an opportunity. It?s not like Will can throw either. He?s been awful.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

He completed 57% of his passes last year. Where does this bogus narrative come from?

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Will fan bois making stuff up so their precious can keep playing.

Too many excuses, it ain't just Will, it's the scheme on offense and defense. In saying this, it all comes down to coaching and coaching decisions. It's obviously there have been way too many bad decisions. I just don't think things can be worked out for this year. Arnett needs to take control of calling the defense, gotta put Barbay in the box upstairs and let someone like Greg Knox be the main play caller on offense.

If we don't make changes with personnel and find out if we can do better, then Arnett isn't who we thought he would be.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

He completed 57% of his passes last year. Where does this bogus narrative come from?

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Bucky, Black sails, and KB21. The noted Will fans who wanted to keep the pure Air Raid. Oh, Homedawg too. "I've seen practice" is the only evidence provided. WHich is fair enough I guess, I"m sure Will does look better in practice. But in a game? Wright can't be worse than 11/28 and 78 net yards of offense

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Dude we've won 8 games with relf and Fitz. Good OCs figure it out

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But we do not have a good OC

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He completed 57% of his passes last year. Where does this bogus narrative come from?

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Look I want to replace Will. But are we really saying 57% completion rate is good???? Like that is slightly better than Will is at his worst?.which is right now. I know Will is not the answer, but I do not believe Wright is either. We should have gone all in on some of the other portal guys and then could have circled back to Wright. We have the worst QB room in the conference at the moment by a decently wide margin.

Instead we went all in on defensive portal guys who have not played a snap, a WR who has played 15% of snaps, a TE who is crap, and Mike Wright. Wright is the only one who has remotely contributed anything positive to this team.

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Originally Posted by Dawgface

8. The coaches are shit. We're screwed.

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But Barbay was one of the top five offensive coordinators out there according to this op. 29 passes, yeah boy we threw it more. Lolz... This guy's opinion is as bad as bad as his coaching apparently.

Here’s a solution.

Let Will have an injury. He can be listed as out due to foot concretitis. He’s only played 3 games so a redshirt is available to him. Let him finish out the season on the sidelines with a headset. Then during the off-season he can go collect his millions in NIL and have 2 more years to play for a college powerhouse and on to the NFL. It’s a win win and WR and his fan club can move on to bigger and better things.

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C34, I still feel you're taking it easy on the staff. You understood way more than I did watching that game, and I saw terrible coaching on all sides. I think you have level 5 alarm bells going off watching our coaching decisions, but you're pulling punches because you think it's best for State to not pile on.

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Coaching is definitely a problem. When your players arent running plays correctly- thats a huge problem. Something is getting lost in translation. They need to get it figured out ASAP

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Look I want to replace Will. But are we really saying 57% completion rate is good???? Like that is slightly better than Will is at his worst?.which is right now. I know Will is not the answer, but I do not believe Wright is either. We should have gone all in on some of the other portal guys and then could have circled back to Wright. We have the worst QB room in the conference at the moment by a decently wide margin.

Instead we went all in on defensive portal guys who have not played a snap, a WR who has played 15% of snaps, a TE who is crap, and Mike Wright. Wright is the only one who has remotely contributed anything positive to this team.

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57% is a hell of a lot better than 39%, especially when most of those 28 throws failed to clear the first down marker

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Originally Posted by msstate7

A running qb would at least make dlinemen maintain lane integrity. DEs can just run around the edge without any worry of a qb taking off in the area he left open

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Preach. I mean, there is a reason we didn't just bull rush every play yesterday.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Mahomes would struggle behind our o-line.

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Agree, and our DL appears incapable of putting any pressure on the QB. They try and struggle but just can't get to the the QB. Guess they're too slow and not strong enough.

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Originally Posted by RockyDog

You can be pissed about our performance but don?t be delusional. Jaxon Fart is not running for 100 yards on Bama and Judkins still looks terrible. No way they come close to winning the West.

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It is not that Ole Miss looks great. It's that the west looks that bad.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

But there is one main problem with that?.WRIGHT CANNOT THROW. Teams will just stack the box, blitz the LBs up the middle and contain on the edge.

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Relf couldn't hit the broadside of a barn and he led us to 8-4 regular season and some big wins. Coaching......