Lost 24-2.
Today was ugly, but we're transitioning. This was the best team we will face this season. Go get the gamecocks
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Lost 24-2.
Today was ugly, but we're transitioning. This was the best team we will face this season. Go get the gamecocks
please don't offend those who choose to transition.*******
1) Leach had won everywhere he'd been- we had an expectation of him ultimately putting together winning teams because the history said that would happen.
2) He was taking over for JoMo who let the inmates run the asylum- we knew there would be discipline issues the new HC had to work out.
Contrast that with Arnett, who's not proven he's a good HC, and was handed a solid 9-4 team with no discipline problems.
NiceQuote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
Will Rogers must transfer immediately to the Millsaps Majors for us to win any SEC games. But, we don't want to win any SEC games. Death is our bride.
This offense performs best with a QB like Mike Wright not Will Rogers. Arnett and Barbay better get a clue quick. Barbay can?t call QB keepers and a read option bc Will can?t do it. I thought Will was Tyler Russell in this offense but he?s looking more like Mike Henig.
Anyone remember Arnett's first 4 games as a head coach? We looked like shit in all of them. Good thing 3 of them were against weak ass teams.
Massive difference is barbay had a complete off seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Leach was hampered by no spring and covid testing keep players out.
It's not the same and not even close
NicerQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Doesn?t mean crap. If Will is our QB, I am a UGA fan, from here on out. I entered the transfer portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Truth
You do not know this. All you know is we look terrible in all games.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Still pulling for a bulldog so not all bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
Barbay had mobile QBs. Mike Wright is a mobile QB. Will Rogers cannot run this offense because he is a liability. He is a statue in the pocket. Until I call for Barbay?s head, which I?m close, I want to see Wright run this offense for a full quarter at the very least.
This seems like a good ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
We will be 2-3 in a couple of weeks. Hopefully we can win 6. Beat ole Miss and Kentucky and the non conference games.
Don't look now but those Gamecocks are ahead of GeorgiaQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Not sure wright is the guy. I think it's gonna take a better qb than wright. We have no choice but to give him time nowQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
They looked good on that driveQuote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
DD, we got a long way to go on this offense to win 6. Making a bowl game would be an achievement.
Eh, we will win at least 6. This should be an 8-win team though, so arnett should be on the hot seat for 6 winsQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Say what you want about Henig, but he had balls. He played with plates holding his collar bone together and rebroke it. He gets my respect and Will could learn a lot from him in that regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Yeah I agree with this. We got work to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
What a typical missippy tate response.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Mike couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and that's what I'm talking about. Tyler Russell was a decent passer but couldn't run a lick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biguglyjoe
Watching our next opponent playing Georgia. We are a 6 win team.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Today was awful. We lost this game when we decided to change our offense. Changing the offense was about long term success. Was arnett right or wrong? Who knows, but he did it, so there will be pains in the transition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Kidney stone level pain at that.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Damn.
We weren't transitioning in 2020?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Barbay will not be here for long if this keeps up. He literally has two different styles of QB that have won in the SEC and he can't figure out how to use either one.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yes, that's why we scored 2. Transitions suck when you make drastic changes. Leach did much better after his initial season, and I hope arnett can do the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He and arnett better get better fast. No argumentQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He was dumb to switch offenses with these players. MSU was dumb for not doing a national search.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
This is a similar situation as Moorhead without the blatant lack of team discipline.
Again, I won't argue with this either. I hated the arnett hire. Zach may be great, but I felt the hire was lazy. I thought the hire was about just maintaining continuity, but then he blew it up. Just don't understand what we were doingQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
What is typical is that no one sees the big picture. Our fate was sealed when the NIL came into existence and we failed to get out in front of that. The attitude that we just need to suck it up and good things will come won?t cut it anymore. That ship sailed. The game has fundamentally changed and we failed to foresee the changes. We got in to late are are reaping what we sowed do to our inability to react quickly and to do as we have always done, move as slowly or as conservatively as possible. This paralysis by over analysis has serve to put our programs back further and further.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
South Florida playing hard against Alabama. We never had intensity close to that today. We play like we don't care and go through the motions.
To go along with Trap's point, please tell me where these 3 wins will come from to get to 6-6.
We went to OT with ARIZONA at home. We will not win on the road vs an SC team that recruits much better and pays its coaches more than Zona. Similarly, Kentucky will come here and us.
Western Michigan and USM are 2 wins.
So we've got to win 2 of the following: @Auburn, @Arky, @A&M, or vs an OM team that would hand 70 on our defense if we played today. Maybe we win at Auburn, but they didn't need OT to beat Cal and their HC is much better than ours. They'll improve and I'm not sure we will. Arky doesn't look good but home field and a better QB and quite possibly a better defense too say otherwise.
Can anyone say today's performance looked better than SE LA? hard to compare the competition levels but I'd say no, we didn't look like we improved from week 1.
Overall, Will overthrew screens, deep balls, out routes, and under threw some too. Was 11/28. Took unnecessary sacks. Defense was AWFUL. OL can't block. What team can you beat with a statue QB that can't throw, an OL that can't block, and a bad D? I can't predict us to beat anyone. Maybe we do get 2 SEC wins to get to 6-6 but I don't see it.
We have to change the offense, or change the QB. I don't care which one, but can't keep both.
Again, NOT the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
- Barbay... full spring and off season and summer.
- Leach, No spring. Not much summer. Player testing to covid... etc.
Not the same thing.
we are 2-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
We need 4 wins.