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Kendall Rogers weighs in on Lemon
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You must have tweeted Kendall Rogers your cousin Lemonis is safe per your sources**
Glad we won as always, funny how the Bucket Coach is now more involved with on the field managing. Just keep the bucket out of the dugout and we shall see how all this plays forward in the future. I hope I've been wrong about Lemonis, but this year still sucks as last year. Last night was more like Msu Baseball.
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Thanks for retiring the stupid "Lemonizik" nickname. It just doesn't flow off the tongue. Which syllable even has the accent? 2nd? 3rd? You can't really put it on both but if you don't, it doesn't sound like their names.
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Great news
Maybe Jackie can turn it around in year 3
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Rogers must have gotten some NILO money ..... name, image, likeness, opinion
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We still need to sweep and home UGA gets swept by LSU. Not sure I see that happening with LSUs current bullpen situation. If Lemonis can sweep and get to Hoover I say give him 1 more year and hopefully he brings in a quality pitching coach.
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Gonna take more than a quality p/c. Gonna need a lot of new arms via the portal.
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He's back for another year of suck. When the portal opens, things are going to get crazy.
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I think MSU fans think more about how great of a job this is than elite coaches do. No elite coach is going to take this job if Lemonis is fired 2 years after winning a National Championship.
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Originally Posted by
Leeshouldveflanked
I think MSU fans think more about how great of a job this is than elite coaches do. No elite coach is going to take this job if Lemonis is fired 2 years after winning a National Championship.
No elite coach took it before the Natty
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Leeshouldveflanked
I think MSU fans think more about how great of a job this is than elite coaches do. No elite coach is going to take this job if Lemonis is fired 2 years after winning a National Championship.
Correct. I mean LSU, with their six national championships struck out on AT LEAST two candidates before landing on Johnson. We have an overinflated sense of how our job is perceived around the country. We are a definitely a top 10 job, but that just does not mean as much in college baseball as it does in basketball or football.
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Coach34
No elite coach took it before the Natty
Schlossnagle did want it and he was elite then. His weirdo ass weirded out our weirdo AD though.
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The administration cares more about football than baseball (which, frankly, I'm good with). Had Lemon turned in this pathetic coaching effort in football he'd be gone already. We fired a football coach that went 16-8 and beat ole miss two years in a row.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Correct. I mean LSU, with their six national championships struck out on AT LEAST two candidates before landing on Johnson. We have an overinflated sense of how our job is perceived around the country. We are a definitely a top 10 job, but that just does not mean as much in college baseball as it does in basketball or football.
I agree with this. Baseball coaches don't hop around as much as football and basketball coaches. They don't leave as often, and they don't get fired as often. Bianco is in Year 23. Scott Berry has been at Southern Miss for 23 years (14 as head coach).
We won a Natty and nobody got Foxhall or GoTro afterward. When a football team wins a Natty, someone always comes after their OC or DC.
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Originally Posted by
Leeshouldveflanked
I think MSU fans think more about how great of a job this is than elite coaches do. No elite coach is going to take this job if Lemonis is fired 2 years after winning a National Championship.
We don't need an "elite coach" to be successful. Just an above average one, and there are plenty of those who will gladly take our job.
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Quaoarsking
We don't need an "elite coach" to be successful. Just an above average one, and there are plenty of those who will gladly take our job.
There are many good coaches in baseball waiting for the chance. I could care less if one is "elite or not".
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Elite coaches in baseball don?t hop from job to job. There is a reason Dan McDonnell has been at Louisville since 2007, Brian O?Connor at Virginia for several years?.etc.
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Coach34
This tweet shows why ED is better than every College Baseball Website and most other College Anything sites. This is 2 or 3 week old information. And no better than listening to one of us on ED.
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Cooterpoot
Schlossnagle did want it and he was elite then. His weirdo ass weirded out our weirdo AD though.
This narrative keeps getting thrown out- but truth be told- he didnt take the job and chose to stay at TCU. If he wanted the job- he would have been our HC
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basedog
There are many good coaches in baseball waiting for the chance. I could care less if one is "elite or not".
Have you sent in your application Basedog?
I look forward to Bert Stare saying you just bought a house in Starkville.
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somebodyshotmypaw
I agree with this. Baseball coaches don't hop around as much as football and basketball coaches. They don't leave as often, and they don't get fired as often. Bianco is in Year 23. Scott Berry has been at Southern Miss for 23 years (14 as head coach).
We won a Natty and nobody got Foxhall or GoTro afterward. When a football team wins a Natty, someone always comes after their OC or DC.
To be fair, Gotro has had several offers for head coaching spots. Tulane and Rice are a couple off the top of my head. He is still in the hunt for the Bama job also. Don’t be surprised if he ends up there at the end of the year.
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TrapGame
The administration cares more about football than baseball (which, frankly, I'm good with). Had Lemon turned in this pathetic coaching effort in football he'd be gone already. We fired a football coach that went 16-8 and beat ole miss two years in a row.
Exactly how it should be!
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TrapGame
The administration cares more about football than baseball (which, frankly, I'm good with). Had Lemon turned in this pathetic coaching effort in football he'd be gone already. We fired a football coach that went 16-8 and beat ole miss two years in a row.
Moorhead was 14-12 (8-5 and then 6-7), not 16-8
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Quaoarsking
Moorhead was 14-12 (8-5 and then 6-7), not 16-8
Huh? I thought we finished regular season 8-4 both years? Anyway, my point remains. Football is more important to the administration and boosters.
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TrapGame
Huh? I thought we finished regular season 8-4 both years? Anyway, my point remains. Football is more important to the administration and boosters.
No, the piss and miss got us to 6-6. I highly doubt Moorhead would have been fired had we been 8-4 again in 2019. He almost wasn't anyway, until the incident with Willie Gay and the poor bowl performance.
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Quaoarsking
No, the piss and miss got us to 6-6. I highly doubt Moorhead would have been fired had we been 8-4 again in 2019. He almost wasn't anyway, until the incident with Willie Gay and the poor bowl performance.
OMG! How could I forget that?! Shit.
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TrapGame
OMG! How could I forget that?! Shit.
Oh but how it makes us SMILE to remember!!
"Poor ol' Elijah well he never got a kiss
Poor ol' Elijah he don't know what he missed
Is it any wonder that his face is red Elijah that poor ol' wooden head"
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The Federalist Engineer
Have you sent in your application Basedog?
I look forward to Bert Stare saying you just bought a house in Starkville.
I?d just use a mesh beach chair instead of bucket. Bert said he would buy me a house when I applied and got the job*. LOL
P.S. I’d be bringing Cc24 as my top assistant.
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basedog
I?d just use a mesh beach chair instead of bucket. Bert said he would buy me a house when I applied and got the job*. LOL
P.S. I’d be bringing Cc24 as my top assistant.
I'll be there for you, man! LOL
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Commercecomet24
I'll be there for you, man! LOL
I’d get a deal for Cade to return and yo peep son would be our catcher/hitting Coach. Hell I’d make you Co HC! We could use the money 24. LOL
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basedog
I’d get a deal for Cade to return and yo peep son would be our catcher/hitting Coach. Hell I’d make you Co HC! We could use the money 24. LOL
Let's make it happen lol!
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Coach34
This narrative keeps getting thrown out- but truth be told- he didnt take the job and chose to stay at TCU. If he wanted the job- he would have been our HC
Not true. And I live in Texas...
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Cowbell
Not true. And I live in Texas...
aGAIN- say that all you want. If he waits until the end of the CWS- he is our coach. Cohen would not name him before the CWS was over- so he took the extension with TCU. Cohen told him he wouldnt name him before the CWS was over.
If he wanted to be our coach- he would be today
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This job isn't as attractive as it once was due to NIL. Also our location was never an issue until widespread social media came about. This is a bullshit world.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
The administration cares more about football than baseball (which, frankly, I'm good with). Had Lemon turned in this pathetic coaching effort in football he'd be gone already. We fired a football coach that went 16-8 and beat ole miss two years in a row.
They care about money and football is the cash cow. Even with the support we have baseball doesn't make much money even for us.if at all.
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Bothrops
This job isn't as attractive as it once was due to NIL. Also our location was never an issue until widespread social media came about. This is a bullshit world.
We're a top 5 or so in the SEC in NIL for baseball. That's pretty damn strong.
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Bothrops
This job isn't as attractive as it once was due to NIL. Also our location was never an issue until widespread social media came about. This is a bullshit world.
We're in the SEC- which means if you're a coach and you want to win National Championships where one of the very few places that has the resources to do that.
Sure there are coaches like Scott Berry that get comfortable somewhere and they stay and just become the face of the program historically. There are others that want to go somewhere that they can win a National Championship.
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TrapGame
The administration cares more about football than baseball (which, frankly, I'm good with). Had Lemon turned in this pathetic coaching effort in football he'd be gone already. We fired a football coach that went 16-8 and beat ole miss two years in a row.
Let me give you two scenarios.
1. We can fire Lemois now and lose between 6-8 million dollars all told between buyouts and paying a new staff and end up with some random mid major coach or an unproven SEC assistant.
2. We can keep Lemonis spend about 4 million dollars on buyouts and do a proper National Search and end up with a more accomplished head coach. Assuming Lemonis doesn't turn it around. Which in my mind a turnaround is very possible. Because I don't think very many MSU fans understand how abysmal Foxhall was. But let's say I'm wrong and we end up with another season like this. We still come out better in the long run because we'll have a much bigger pool to choose from and more resources. Most of our fans just don't get this for some reason.
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Todd4State
Let me give you two scenarios.
1. We can fire Lemois now and lose between 6-8 million dollars all told between buyouts and paying a new staff and end up with some random mid major coach or an unproven SEC assistant.
2. We can keep Lemonis spend about 4 million dollars on buyouts and do a proper National Search and end up with a more accomplished head coach. Assuming Lemonis doesn't turn it around. Which in my mind a turnaround is very possible. Because I don't think very many MSU fans understand how abysmal Foxhall was. But let's say I'm wrong and we end up with another season like this. We still come out better in the long run because we'll have a much bigger pool to choose from and more resources. Most of our fans just don't get this for some reason.
The only thing i see is a repeat of Moorhead. Most of us with common sense could see he was a crap coach after Kentucky game....but noooo a lot of knuckleheads wanted to keep him. It wasn't until he told us to pound sand and kick rocks that he was told to exit stage left. It is DeJa'Vu all over again.