Never normally do this but Selmon, no Hoover? Its time
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Never normally do this but Selmon, no Hoover? Its time
Well yeah, if we come in 13th or 14th in the SEC in 2023, obviously Lemonis should be fired. That's been the case for about a year now, and tonight's result doesn't affect that statement (other than making it slightly more likely).
We got outbid for two studs.
I’m gonna go on limb and say I think we win Saturday. Tough loss tonight and now let’s see how we nut up this weekend.
I hate to tell you but we arent winning 2 of 3 barring an act of GodQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Its year 5Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
And I am willing to bet that the loudest voices in fire Lemonis, fire Leach or fire any other coach after a a loss crowd give the least amount to the Bulldog InitiativeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
That's an excuse for coming in 2nd. This thread is considering the possibility of coming in last. (Which I personally do not predict for the record.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Just bring Dohm in clean in the 8th and we laughing and telling jokes. Lead off walks are lethal.
None of that has anything to do with doing little things right and having a good culture. This is year 5 with an experienced bunch and we dont have either of those. We have been mentally weak with this staffs own hand picked players since the Vandy series in Omaha. Staff has had plenty of time to fix this. We are the worst team in the conference for going on 2 years with the most commitment in the league. It?s unacceptableQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezsoil
It's a money game now. We are down the trough.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I dont buy that. That doesnt have much to do with player development or accountabilityQuote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Also Skenes is pitching lights out. After we lost the bud for him, a few on here said that his stats were bloated from who he was facing. Looks like he?s the ACE we desperately needed
It would just delay the inevitable. Our problems are deeper than that I believeQuote:
Originally Posted by Activated Alpha
So.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
All of this is just delaying the inevitable. At this point just pull the plug. We're the same team now as we were in April of 2022. Our players make the same mistakes and the coaches make the same mistakes.
Correct. Not much if anything has changedQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
We could've given them just as much had we chosen to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
We had to keep Hancock and Hunt. And God bless them I love Hancock but it?s still on usQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
We're looking at a Nikki situation on the baseball side IMO. We don't have a head coach with the balls to do what needs to be done. And what coach is doing a good job? Cheese's catchers suck and he hasn't recruited one here. Foxhall is shit. Gotro? He's as good as we've got. Lemonis just sits his pizza eating ass on the bucket and watches. Does he even make a decision? I don't think he does.
Right. If we are dependent on having to get two people we are doomed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
At least Cannizarro was making decisions in the dugout.....I mean they didn't have anything to do with the game going on, but he was making some decisions for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Come on man. Lem went right to Dohm after KC. Dohm grooved one fastball and that was the ballgame. He made the right moves tonight, as far as pitching goes. Now batting Lane with bases loaded...well I errr uhhh welll....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Haha++Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
How many of these threads are you going to start? Quit watching man. If you have seen enough, then stop seeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Other than our sacred cow QB, you only get on this board to hate on people.
Wrong. This team needed that win. You put Dohm in to start the eighth if you're willing to put him in next batter. He stuck with a kid one batter too long. That tying run doesn't score without the leadoff walk. Ballgame!Quote:
Originally Posted by Skydawg1
But you're right on the other.
Cheese? Catchers? Did we not have the best defensive catcher in the game before this season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
You can be upset without overreacting like bearsharks do about everything.
It's easy to coach in hindsight. We wouldn't have a Natty had we pitched it the way you so outspokenly said we should....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I'm not the highest paid pitching coach in the country (at one time). Check back after the season. I'm not going to say we finish in last, but we'll be bottom 3 or 4 in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Even Gene Chizik won a title.
You missed where I said he hasnt brought one in. Meaning we've got no one right now. He's not recruited to replace LoTan. His FR catcher is struggling back there. His experienced one isn't good. Doesn't even have a backup really. This staff pissed away some great years in our program recruiting wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
If we're even broaching the Lenonis=axe option, what big time coach could we pull? Especially with our NIL limitations? His entire plus-side was recruiting, yes?
Want to bet on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I didnt challenge this- I challenged where you said his catchers suck - his catcher last year and the year before didn't. And Of course his freshman catcher is going to struggle at times. Talk about unrealisticQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Let me sum tonight up.
We lost because our freshmen who are talented played like freshmen playing their first SEC game on the road.
Loo gave up four in the first and then settled down like normal. To me, that technically is where we "lost" the game IMO. Take away that inning and we win 5-1.
Now extra innings- Highfill has to block that pitch. He knows a slider is coming. HAS TO keep it in front of him. Can't remember if he was on one knee or not but no catcher should be on one knee in that spot. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong. Next year- that's something that Highfill will be better at.
Well....let's talk about reality here.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
The only way I see Lemonis fired and we clean house is if we have a losing season again. Personally I think we will have a winning season barring unforeseen injuries like last year.
If we have a winning season and miss the postseason- then I think we fire Foxhall. Gautreau could very well end up at Tulane next year- they are awful this year. 3-14 awful. I wouldn't be surprised if they go in a different direction.
Make a regional but go no further- we may make some changes depending on how certain position groups perform.
SR or better then staff stays intact barring a coach getting a head coaching job.
Despite tonight the team is playing better. If I had to guess we probably at the very least have a winning season and probably at least make a regional. We have enough pitching to make a run IMO.
Decisions like that are why Foxhall is on the hot seat. At least part of the reason for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
He was on one knee I pointed that out in game thread and that's a huge no-no for me with runners on base. It prevents you from moving quick enough to block.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Especially the winning run on third.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Thanks for confirming. I usually don't pay that much attention to something like that.
Guess it's just coaching pitchers and catchers for so many years that i constantly watch em both to see what they're doing right and wrong lol. Just habit at this point in my life lol. I taught my catchers they could only go down to one knee with less than 2 strikes and no runners on. 2 strikes you gotta be ready to block and with runners on as well. It's become a bad habit in the last decade or so, going down to one kneeQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State