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Here is my 2 cents take it for what it?s worth to you


The new AD is the Oklahoma dude.



The rest of the SEC is not waiting on us to hire a OC. We have needs on offense. The portal closes soon. We are not getting any offensive transfers (we need them) right now bc they don?t know what we are going to run. It is past time. If we are going to use a TE/H (we need to) we are going to have to get 2 or 3 from the portal. We very now are going to have a TE coach with no TEs on the roster. Doesnt make much sense.


Other schools are offering our kids money. Serious money. Im not going to name names but its some kids that we really need and some kids that have done nothing but right by us and even turned down money so other kids would stay with us. And yes those other schools are you think they are and are offering that money thru some folks that love to tell others how to act and what to do with their time. We need to pull the trigger on a OC soon in my opinion.

Turner is great, I am ok with Friend. Bumphis is a legend. But these are all types of coaches we have tried to win big with before and it didnt work out. You are not going to beat Bama by trying to out name them on your staff. Basically we are doing the exact opposite of what Leach did with the staff. Hiring based on being a name and not on loyalty or what you personally believe or value. Leach was a dinosaur in some ways that we needed to change, but his culture and his values are why people loved him and We do not need to lose that in my opinion. I love Arnett seems like a great dude and he coached hard. We will see how it goes.

What the frig is taking so long on hiring an OC? Is Arnett having to run this by the Cigar boys for approval?

Too late. Arnett showed the staff how loyal he is by firing most of them. And anyone who doesn't think the OC search is an abject failure to this point is a maroon suck up. He is off to an awful start. No offensive direction, 3 of the 4 qb on campus walked, and no OC for us to bring in transfers at this point.

Im not here to bash Arnett. Or cause a panic. I like Arnett I am just giving my 2 cents like I posted. We needed to change the offense a little bit. We dont need to change the most important parts

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Here is my 2 cents take it for what it?s worth to you


The new AD is the Oklahoma dude.



The rest of the SEC is not waiting on us to hire a OC. We have needs on offense. The portal closes soon. We are not getting any offensive transfers (we need them) right now bc they don?t know what we are going to run. It is past time. If we are going to use a TE/H (we need to) we are going to have to get 2 or 3 from the portal. We very now are going to have a TE coach with no TEs on the roster. Doesnt make much sense.


Other schools are offering our kids money. Serious money. Im not going to name names but its some kids that we really need and some kids that have done nothing but right by us and even turned down money so other kids would stay with us. And yes those other schools are you think they are and are offering that money thru some folks that love to tell others how to act and what to do with their time. We need to pull the trigger on a OC soon in my opinion.

Turner is great, I am ok with Friend. Bumphis is a legend. But these are all types of coaches we have tried to win big with before and it didnt work out. You are not going to beat Bama by trying to out name them on your staff. Basically we are doing the exact opposite of what Leach did with the staff. Hiring based on being a name and not on loyalty or what you personally believe or value. Leach was a dinosaur in some ways that we needed to change, but his culture and his values are why people loved him and We do not need to lose that in my opinion. I love Arnett seems like a great dude and he coached hard. We will see how it goes.

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Man, I see it as completely opposite. We are not hiring big names, we are hiring MS guys.
Now, if they happen to be big names, and MS guys, then its a win-win.

R.E.L.A.X.

1. Portal opens back up after spring ball. We're not finding any more impact players this late in the juncture. I do agree with you on TEs. We're going to have to grab one after spring ball or move Harmon because WE ARE NOT MOVING ROBINSON TO TE. I know you didn't say it, but I want to cut that off before someone mentions it.

2. Other schools offering our guys money is going to happen 365 days a year now. Just like I know we're putting those same feelers out to kids. Everyone is doing it so you have to accept that. Agree on needing an OC hire ASAP. It's taking far too long and shows Arnett's inexperience in the big chair.

3. Turner is meh, Friend is a decent hire, and I have no clue why we brought back Bumphis. At least Friend and Turner have experience and recruiting connections in the area. None are upgrades over their predecessors though. It will be paramount to keep Washington and hire an OC with Texas connections. We can't lose that pipeline. We've already lost Louisiana and some of Georgia. We can't lose Texas as well.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

Man, I see it as completely opposite. We are not hiring big names, we are hiring MS guys.
Now, if they happen to be big names, and MS guys, then its a win-win.

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All those guys are ?SEC crooter? types if that makes sense. Its just been done before. I hope they all do well. Turner is a great coach. We upgraded there. I like the owning the State part of it too but im just saying its never good to break up a family. Im not trying to be overly negative

Cohen put us in a bind and we are way behind and that was before he left.

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Cohen put us in a bind and we are way behind and that was before he left.

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Keenum should have hired an AD 2 months ago.

I expect a hire tomorrow. Could run into Friday I guess... We are actively recruiting te's present. They will be a part of the offense. Like every other offense in America. Yes we've had our own guys offered good deals from others. So far bullets dodged.

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Originally Posted by Tough Dawg

R.E.L.A.X.

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Im not panicking. Im going to wake up tomorrow and be ok. But Some things are happening as you type that to our kids

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

1. Portal opens back up after spring ball. We're not finding any more impact players this late in the juncture. I do agree with you on TEs. We're going to have to grab one after spring ball or move Harmon because WE ARE NOT MOVING ROBINSON TO TE. I know you didn't say it, but I want to cut that off before someone mentions it.

2. Other schools offering our guys money is going to happen 365 days a year now. Just like I know we're putting those same feelers out to kids. Everyone is doing it so you have to accept that. Agree on needing an OC hire ASAP. It's taking far too long and shows Arnett's inexperience in the big chair.

3. Turner is meh, Friend is a decent hire, and I have no clue why we brought back Bumphis. At least Friend and Turner have experience and recruiting connections in the area. None are upgrades over their predecessors though. It will be paramount to keep Washington and hire an OC with Texas connections. We can't lose that pipeline. We've already lost Louisiana and some of Georgia. We can't lose Texas as well.

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Your disdain for Bumphis is well known, who would you have hired?
Both our WR coaches went to be OC's, it's not like we ran them out of town, we just weren't going to promote them.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Keenum should have hired an AD 2 months ago.

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^^^^This^^^^ but Keenum is just a Government Bureaucrat.

We need WRs. We will be right back to when we raised hell about not having any under Mullen. We have 2 right now that are reliable game to game. We need more than just TE.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

We need WRs. We will be right back to when we raised hell about not having any under Mullen. We have 2 right now that are reliable game to game. We need more than just TE.

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Seems like we have 1 outside guy and 8 slot guys. And we are going to 1 slot.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

1. Portal opens back up after spring ball. We're not finding any more impact players this late in the juncture. I do agree with you on TEs. We're going to have to grab one after spring ball or move Harmon because WE ARE NOT MOVING ROBINSON TO TE. I know you didn't say it, but I want to cut that off before someone mentions it.

2. Other schools offering our guys money is going to happen 365 days a year now. Just like I know we're putting those same feelers out to kids. Everyone is doing it so you have to accept that. Agree on needing an OC hire ASAP. It's taking far too long and shows Arnett's inexperience in the big chair.

3. Turner is meh, Friend is a decent hire, and I have no clue why we brought back Bumphis. At least Friend and Turner have experience and recruiting connections in the area. None are upgrades over their predecessors though. It will be paramount to keep Washington and hire an OC with Texas connections. We can't lose that pipeline. We've already lost Louisiana and some of Georgia. We can't lose Texas as well.

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I think we are close to 100 percent agreement.

Harmon ain?t moving he will jump in the portal if we ask.

I bring up the money part bc right now we are just giving kids reasons to listen to offers. Nobody is waiting on us.


I like Turner bc I know enough of his former players that swear by him. I dont know enough about Friend other than he has been around. It makes sense to hire Bump but I am with you we should not have ran off Hollingshead. Or Miller. I hate it.

Yall are gonna freak and this is my opinion, im not sure Arnett is calling all these shots

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Seems like we have 1 outside guy and 8 slot guys. And we are going to 1 slot.

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And we have 2 guys that left that are proven consistent players and are tough. That is a problem

Problem is Arnett's experience or lack thereof. You never put all your eggs in one basket.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I expect a hire tomorrow. Could run into Friday I guess... We are actively recruiting te's present. They will be a part of the offense. Like every other offense in America. Yes we've had our own guys offered good deals from others. So far bullets dodged.

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Except for Locke, Robertson, Dillon Johnson, Rara....

Also lost on the LT we thought we had. A kicker. A replacement for DJ- Smoke, and multiple WR targets.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

We need WRs. We will be right back to when we raised hell about not having any under Mullen. We have 2 right now that are reliable game to game. We need more than just TE.

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I know we need more than te. Need qb's too. It's not like our pool is going to be great anyway. No matter when we went after them. Meaning qb and wr. We have a ton of wr coming back. And a 3 year starter at qb. Which obviously you know.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Except for Locke, Robertson, Dillon Johnson, Rara....

Also lost on the LT we thought we had. A kicker. A replacement for DJ- Smoke, and multiple WR targets.

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The two qb we're gonna bale no matter. I was referring to bullets dodged w players that are still here. And there are no nervous ones.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I know we need more than te. Need qb's too. It's not like our pool is going to be great anyway. No matter when we went after them. Meaning qb and wr. We have a ton of wr coming back. And a 3 year starter at qb. Which obviously you know.

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I know we have bodies. We need players. We need a dawg on the outside. Polk was reliable that disappeared

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

Your disdain for Bumphis is well known, who would you have hired?
Both our WR coaches went to be OC's, it's not like we ran them out of town, we just weren't going to promote them.

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There's plenty of people we could've hire. Daikiel Shorts at Houston, Kodi Burns who's with the Saints but was with Tennessee last year, Luke Huard or Dennis Simmons at USC, DJ Mangas who helped architect that offense at LSU with Joe Brady, Ricky Turner at Samford.......or and this is wild......we could've let the OC bring in who he wanted to.

And look, Bumphis may end up being ok. But he has no recruiting ties anywhere the Southeast and he's coached receivers in a run first spread. Our receiver room is as talented as it's ever been right now. I worry about bringing in some guy who doesn't have either strong recruiting ties to an area or a track record of developing guys to be NFL prospects.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

There's plenty of people we could've hire. Daikiel Shorts at Houston, Kodi Burns who's with the Saints but was with Tennessee last year, Luke Huard or Dennis Simmons at USC, DJ Mangas who helped architect that offense at LSU with Joe Brady, Ricky Turner at Samford.......or and this is wild......we could've let the OC bring in who he wanted to.

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I would love to know what we offered Briles. We could have offered 2 million and probably closed the deal. In MSU fashion, we probably tried to get him for 1.5 or less.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I would love to know what we offered Briles. We could have offered 2 million and probably closed the deal. In MSU fashion, we probably tried to get him for 1.5 or less.

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It wasn?t enough to to convince his wife

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

I know we need more than te. Need qb's too. It's not like our pool is going to be great anyway. No matter when we went after them. Meaning qb and wr. We have a ton of wr coming back. And a 3 year starter at qb. Which obviously you know.

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We need to find a way to get into the Walker Howard sweepstakes and the crazy thing is.....we have a pretty damn big in

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

I would love to know what we offered Briles. We could have offered 2 million and probably closed the deal. In MSU fashion, we probably tried to get him for 1.5 or less.

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1.85. We would've gone to 2 if that's what he asked for.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I think we are close to 100 percent agreement.

Harmon ain?t moving he will jump in the portal if we ask.

I bring up the money part bc right now we are just giving kids reasons to listen to offers. Nobody is waiting on us.


I like Turner bc I know enough of his former players that swear by him. I dont know enough about Friend other than he has been around. It makes sense to hire Bump but I am with you we should not have ran off Hollingshead. Or Miller. I hate it.

Yall are gonna freak and this is my opinion, im not sure Arnett is calling all these shots

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Arnett is calling the shots. Brad is just there to help things. But this is z A's deal.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

It wasn?t enough to to convince his wife

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hadn't heard that rumor.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

We need to find a way to get into the Walker Howard sweepstakes and the crazy thing is.....we have a pretty damn big in

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We don't have 1/10th of the money needed for Howard.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

1.85. We would've gone to 2 if that's what he asked for.

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we offered 1.85? Damn, can't complain about that.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

We don't have 1/10th of the money needed for Howard.

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Walker Howard is a Howard....as in Howard Industries. As in started by MSU Alum Billy Howard. We got all the money we need. He's probably headed to a blue blood, but make no mistake that we could get in this thing if there was interest on his part.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Walker Howard is a Howard....as in Howard Industries. As in started by MSU Alum Billy Howard. We got all the money we need. He's probably headed to a blue blood, but make no mistake that we could get in this thing if there was interest on his part.

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So the Howard's gonna pony up to over own money for him to come here??? Like I said, we don't have enough money to get in the game. And as you said- he doesn't want to be here so there's that.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Walker Howard is a Howard....as in Howard Industries. As in started by MSU Alum Billy Howard. We got all the money we need. He's probably headed to a blue blood, but make no mistake that we could get in this thing if there was interest on his part.

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Yeah he is a Howard but that side of the family and the jones county Howard's ain't that close. I know the Howard's well and Jamie(Walkers dad)wasn't going to State and neither is Walker.

ETA it would be awesome to get him but just don't see anyway it's happening.

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yeah he is a Howard but that side of the family and the jones county Howard's ain't that close. I know the Howard's well and Jamie(Walkers dad)wasn't going to State and neither is Walker.

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They're not THAT close. I know the Jones Co. Howard's all very well and they do know that side of the family and interact with them. It would be hard to pull but I know they'd love to have a Howard under center for State. They're a great family and are 100% ALL DAWG. Mr. Billy has done loads for the University on multiple occasions through the years.

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Cohen put us in a bind and we are way behind and that was before he left.

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Geez, how many years will your obsession last. Get over it already. You do the same shit over at SPS.

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

They're not THAT close. I know the Jones Co. Howard's all very well and they do know that side of the family and interact with them. It would be hard to pull but I know they'd love to have a Howard under center for State. They're a great family and are 100% ALL DAWG. Mr. Billy has done loads for the University on multiple occasions through the years.

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Yes I agree with that and I've known Billy and Linda a long, long time, my brother in law dated Cindy for awhile, and while they interact there's been some division there that goes back awhile. It would be a great get but it's pie in the sky. Yes they're a great family that gives to State and to all our Jones county schools

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Geez, how many years will your obsession last. Get over it already. You do the same shit over at SPS.

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It?s amazing how our NIL doubled within a few weeks of Cohen leaving.

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Originally Posted by bobcat91

Too late. Arnett showed the staff how loyal he is by firing most of them. And anyone who doesn't think the OC search is an abject failure to this point is a maroon suck up. He is off to an awful start. No offensive direction, 3 of the 4 qb on campus walked, and no OC for us to bring in transfers at this point.

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Our offense has sucked against anyone worth a shit and Arnett saw it up close and personal. He’s trying to fix that side of the ball, because it’s broken.