I tried to tell you guys

In late August when this board was filled with dreams of 10-2, I tried to tell you guys the situation. We are a 7-5 team, we have to compare talent to talent. We are in the Auburn, UK, UM and Ark tier of the conference, we need to split with those four and steal another win. Unfortunately UM and UK may be better than anticipated, but Auburn may be worse, so far Ark is about what was expected.

Coach34, I hope you were trolling and not being naive in your followup comment.

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We lose to Bama and UGA. We likely lose to (but also have a realistic chance of winning) LSU and TAMU. Those four teams greatly out talent us. We win all 4 non-conf games. Our season comes down to UK/UM/Ark and the Barn. We win 3 of those 4 and we are 7-5, knock off LSU with a new coach in an early season matchup and we are 8-4. Ole Miss has Vandy and KU as their east opponents, this year....replacing our UGA game with Vandy would be great.

I like Leach as a coach and will always think we was a good hire at time, no matter if he fails here in the next year or two. Unfortunately to me, he has not proven to be a master tactician who maximizes his talent or schemes to protect his team's deficiencies. I think this year he's going to make adjustments and prove to everyone he's a very good coach, but with our schedule, 8-4 will be a very good coaching job.




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LSU greatly out talents us? What? Thats not even close to being true.

Why would anyone gloat just 3 games into the season? Whether you had us as a good team or a bad team, wait til November!

Ole Miss has played absolutely no one and still can’t do anything but run the ball.

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

In late August when this board was filled with dreams of 10-2, I tried to tell you guys the situation. We are a 7-5 team, we have to compare talent to talent. We are in the Auburn, UK, UM and Ark tier of the conference, we need to split with those four and steal another win. Unfortunately UM and UK may be better than anticipated, but Auburn may be worse, so far Ark is about what was expected.

Coach34, I hope you were trolling and not being naive in your followup comment.

Last edited by viverlibre; 08-31-2022 at 09:10 PM.

We lose to Bama and UGA. We likely lose to (but also have a realistic chance of winning) LSU and TAMU. Those four teams greatly out talent us. We win all 4 non-conf games. Our season comes down to UK/UM/Ark and the Barn. We win 3 of those 4 and we are 7-5, knock off LSU with a new coach in an early season matchup and we are 8-4. Ole Miss has Vandy and KU as their east opponents, this year....replacing our UGA game with Vandy would be great.

I like Leach as a coach and will always think we was a good hire at time, no matter if he fails here in the next year or two. Unfortunately to me, he has not proven to be a master tactician who maximizes his talent or schemes to protect his team's deficiencies. I think this year he's going to make adjustments and prove to everyone he's a very good coach, but with our schedule, 8-4 will be a very good coaching job.




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LSU greatly out talents us? What? Thats not even close to being true.

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shut up bitch

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Originally Posted by 99jc

shut up bitch

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What's your problem soy boy? Can't take the truth? Many folks on the board, who are thought to be experts, either don't understand football or let their rose colored glasses have too great an influence. On the other had, I'm certainly not an expert, but can use deductive reasoning.

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

LSU greatly out talents us? What? Thats not even close to being true.

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I feel like this was written by one of those "flat earth" people. If you can't believe your own eyes then how is there anything anyone can say to convince you?

We led for 3 quarters in Tiger Stadium but the problem is we made way too many glaring mistakes. Muffing a punt to give LSU a TD being the biggest one. Just like last year we are going to play a lot of very close games in the SEC and if we don't do a better job on special teams and not having costly penalties and not dropping balls that hit us in the hands then we will lose most of them just like we did last year. At State we seem to always have a lot of guys that make a bunch of sloppy mistakes during big games and that makes the Air Raid difficult. Its much harder to run an Air Raid and keep mistakes to a minimum than a run based offense like Mullen had. Special teams always seem to be a problem for us no matter who the HC is.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

We led for 3 quarters in Tiger Stadium but the problem is we made way too many glaring mistakes. Muffing a punt to give LSU a TD being the biggest one. Just like last year we are going to play a lot of very close games in the SEC and if we don't do a better job on special teams and not having costly penalties and not dropping balls that hit us in the hands then we will lose most of them just like we did last year. At State we seem to always have a lot of guys that make a bunch of sloppy mistakes during big games and that makes the Air Raid difficult. Its much harder to run an Air Raid and keep mistakes to a minimum than a run based offense like Mullen had. Special teams always seem to be a problem for us no matter who the HC is.

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The biggest problem I see with the Air Raid so far is lack of big plays. We control the clock with slow drives, but mistakes set offenses back and most times we lack the ability to overcome. I suppose the biggest reason is the lack of talent to overcome and sustain the drive. We are in the same boat as the old outdated "wishbone", which had long drives a lot of the time unless the team had better talent to make big plays.
Air Raid has shown it can work, but I think you have to mix things up with different formations at times. But I'm just wanting us to be successful and win!

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Why would anyone gloat just 3 games into the season? Whether you had us as a good team or a bad team, wait til November!

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^This!

I said earlier this month that the LSU game would decide whether we are going to have a big year ( 10-2 or 9-3)

Well we arent going to have a big year

Im here to make another statement

The Arkansas game will decide if we have a bad year. (6-6 or 5-7)

Arkansas has the worst rated Pass defense in FBS this season through 3 games.

If we can not score 30+ on Arkansas at home and win I do not believe we make a bowl game this season.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

I said earlier this month that the LSU game would decide whether we are going to have a big year ( 10-2 or 9-3)

Well we arent going to have a big year

Im here to make another statement

The Arkansas game will decide if we have a bad year. (6-6 or 5-7)

Arkansas has the worst rated Pass defense in FBS this season through 3 games.

If we can not score 30+ on Arkansas at home and win I do not believe we make a bowl game this season.

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Arkansas leads the FBS in sacks with 17

Their D line is no joke

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Originally Posted by basedog

The biggest problem I see with the Air Raid so far is lack of big plays. We control the clock with slow drives, but mistakes set offenses back and most times we lack the ability to overcome. I suppose the biggest reason is the lack of talent to overcome and sustain the drive. We are in the same boat as the old outdated "wishbone", which had long drives a lot of the time unless the team had better talent to make big plays.
Air Raid has shown it can work, but I think you have to mix things up with different formations at times. But I'm just wanting us to be successful and win!

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I think we just need to not have a collective break down in one game. Stop muffin punts inside your own 10 that results in a fumble. Stop dropping passes that would have made a first down that killed drives. Stop missing blocks by the RBs that get the QB planted. Do that and we would have won that game. So let's see how we respond over the next month.

No doubt that we are building a program. It's evident in the growth and in the young players that are coming up. I hope the staff keeps up the portal and developing an OL.

I see more explosive plays this year too. WAY more. We had 2 rushing plays that were explosive at LSU. 37 yards TD by Marks, 35 yard rush by Johnson.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Arkansas leads the FBS in sacks with 17

Their D line is no joke

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Yeah, they have holes, but being able to get the ball off is going to be a massive task. Rogers is going to have to make the right reads.

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

I feel like this was written by one of those "flat earth" people. If you can't believe your own eyes then how is there anything anyone can say to convince you?

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LSU got the momentum in the 4th Q from a dropped punt at our 10 yard line. We were winning the game at that point. We obviously weren't lagging in talent too much

When LSU started playing they went on a 31-3 run and there wasn't a damn thing we could do about it.

ETA: I admit I thought we were going to win that game because we were more technically sound than they were. But, after watching the way the white jerseys just ran away from the maroon ones at nearly every level.... nope.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Why would anyone gloat just 3 games into the season? Whether you had us as a good team or a bad team, wait til November!

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It is the way of our people.

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Arkansas leads the FBS in sacks with 17

Their D line is no joke

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If they are getting sacks by bringing a lot of pressure and playing man, we will torch them. If they are getting a lot of sacks only bringing 4, we're probably screwed.

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

In late August when this board was filled with dreams of 10-2, I tried to tell you guys the situation. We are a 7-5 team, we have to compare talent to talent. We are in the Auburn, UK, UM and Ark tier of the conference, we need to split with those four and steal another win. Unfortunately UM and UK may be better than anticipated, but Auburn may be worse, so far Ark is about what was expected.

Coach34, I hope you were trolling and not being naive in your followup comment.

Last edited by viverlibre; 08-31-2022 at 09:10 PM.

We lose to Bama and UGA. We likely lose to (but also have a realistic chance of winning) LSU and TAMU. Those four teams greatly out talent us. We win all 4 non-conf games. Our season comes down to UK/UM/Ark and the Barn. We win 3 of those 4 and we are 7-5, knock off LSU with a new coach in an early season matchup and we are 8-4. Ole Miss has Vandy and KU as their east opponents, this year....replacing our UGA game with Vandy would be great.

I like Leach as a coach and will always think we was a good hire at time, no matter if he fails here in the next year or two. Unfortunately to me, he has not proven to be a master tactician who maximizes his talent or schemes to protect his team's deficiencies. I think this year he's going to make adjustments and prove to everyone he's a very good coach, but with our schedule, 8-4 will be a very good coaching job.




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LSU greatly out talents us? What? Thats not even close to being true.

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I just perused the C34 quote, but what's untrue about anything in it? oh, and the "LSU has more talent" quote is certainly true if one buys in on the service ranking...

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LSU got the momentum in the 4th Q from a dropped punt at our 10 yard line. We were winning the game at that point. We obviously weren't lagging in talent too much

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Jackie Wayne Sherrill had a saying that, "talent wins in the end," meaning talent makes plays in crucial situations. The way they wrecked us in the 4th quarter proves how much more talent they have than us. They played a terrible game and skull drug us, I doubt we have more than a couple of players that would start on either side of the ball for them. Remember their freshmen Olinemen you were lamenting? They blocked us pretty well.

They beat our ass. 31-16 is a beatdown.

Arkansas's dline will be a massive problem for Will. He'll have to throw it immediately in the second half. That would be a loss the fanbase as a whole would jump ship over.

Arkansas is ranked #10, game is probably a toss up. Depending on the next couple of games they may well be favored.

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

I think we just need to not have a collective break down in one game. Stop muffin punts inside your own 10 that results in a fumble. Stop dropping passes that would have made a first down that killed drives. Stop missing blocks by the RBs that get the QB planted. Do that and we would have won that game. So let's see how we respond over the next month.

No doubt that we are building a program. It's evident in the growth and in the young players that are coming up. I hope the staff keeps up the portal and developing an OL.

I see more explosive plays this year too. WAY more. We had 2 rushing plays that were explosive at LSU. 37 yards TD by Marks, 35 yard rush by Johnson.

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that would also entail not trying 4th down conversions inside our own 30 yard line while either tied or ahead ... that one isn't on the players

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Originally Posted by WhiskeyPirate

Arkansas is ranked #10, game is probably a toss up. Depending on the next couple of games they may well be favored.

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funny thing is - I think we win that game and I'm skeptical by nature.... probably one of those games that Leach wins when he wasn't supposed to win

Arkansas's dline has 17 sacks through three games, 8 against Missouri State, 6 against South Carolina, and 3 against Cincinnati

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Originally Posted by FISHDAWG

funny thing is - I think we win that game and I'm skeptical by nature.... probably one of those games that Leach wins when he wasn't supposed to win

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I agree, we beat them last year if not for a completely criminal PI last year on the road. Tamu is a team that leach has always given fits also.

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Originally Posted by dawgman15

Arkansas's dline has 17 sacks through three games, 8 against Missouri State, 6 against South Carolina, and 3 against Cincinnati

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How many are by their DE's?

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

How many are by their DE's?

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8.5 sacks from their DL

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

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Wow ... simply wow. And I just put v-cash on them to win. I don't remember them having an explosive offense but somehow they win