Do we have an idea of who the next coach might be yet?? Haven?t seen anything on here as of late about it. So I was getting curious
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Do we have an idea of who the next coach might be yet?? Haven?t seen anything on here as of late about it. So I was getting curious
As of tonight I don’t think search makes it past Matt McMahon or Chris Jans.
What’s your guess on WBB Coach?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
No clue but I’ll be the 1st to admit I’m not really a big fan of womens ball. If they win great if not ehh.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Would be shocked if either became coach hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Either one would be a homerun hire for MSUQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
We are always at a disadvantage-but with SEC money we can pay for the right guyQuote:
Originally Posted by calidawg
We have definitely paid for the wrong guy before. 🙄🙄Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
This... and it’s absurd Novak hasn’t gotten the job yet.. hopefully LB won’t be involved in the hiring process ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Bring back stansbury.
Karl Smesko, Florida Gulf Coast WBB could be close to the top of the list.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by calidawg
Novak isn’t qualified if we’re being honest. I appreciate the job he did this season but we’re going to reward him with a SEC job because the girls played hard? The standard has become that low?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
Matt McMahon is not going to be the coach here. He is going to have much better options. Jans maybe. My bet is richey or someone not on the radar yet. We are not a great job, we just have to hope we get luckyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Girls played hard and WON a lot of games they had no business winning and would have won quite a few more if they had had enough players to finish out the 4th Q. I'm tired of these "looks good on paper" hires like NMP or Moorhead that Cohen keeps making but are pathetic once they get on the job. At least I have already witnessed Novak's on floor coaching ability in the SEC wars. Richard Williams wasn't technically qualified either to run an SEC men's BB program but he's still the only coach in our history to get us to a Final Four and won an SEC title as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Stands might be a good hire for the women’s programQuote:
Originally Posted by BhamDawg
Apparently neither was what’s her name..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Bottom line this guy won sec games with basically 7-8 players all year
I think we have a 5 star transfer or a commit or something , again I don’t folllow women’s hoops
But there is no need to spend millions on a girls coach when we can hire this guy and win games
Give him 3 years and see what he can do with his girls and a full roster
He won one game vs a good team. He's not getting the job unless a couple people say no. And that's how it should be. Never just sign someone blindly. Had he made the tournament or beaten a few good teams, it might be different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
As for the men, my money is squarely on Riley. And I think that's a bad hire. Hope I'm wrong.
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Novak isn?t qualified if we?re being honest. I appreciate the job he did this season but we?re going to reward him with a SEC job because the girls played hard? The standard has become that low?
Then I must be missing something.....exactly what is being "qualified"? Looked damn qualified to me. Of course, we all know that Cohen will outsmart himself on thjs one.
I think Novak has done a nice job keeping the program from sinking and the ladies played hard for him...Gary Henderson did an outstanding job his year as interim, look how deep we went with him, yet you didn't have as quite as many drumming for him to get the job as you do Novak.
Why not leave him as intern another year and see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
One it's women's basketball. Us being a women's powerhouse ended when Shaffer left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Two most everyone trusted Cohen to make a good baseball hire. Even though a lot were skeptical of Lemonis hire, they weren't up in arms and were willing to give him a chance unlike the Leach hire who many wrote off at the get go.
I don't watch women's basketball but why not see what this guy can do with a full roster and year. Leave him as interm with a chance to earn the contract. Seems like he's doing a decent job recruiting as is from what little I've seen
I doubt we get the guy from Florida cc.
And for the men's hire, both those guys don't have ties to the sec other than one year of ga at Tennessee.
Not opposed to them but just wanted to add that after reading about the Ray comments.
-i know that it's different since Ray was an assistant but just thought I'd add that in
I've never really gotten the Gary Henderson comparison myself other than they were both interim HCs. Henderson was a guy in the twilight of his career who had a pretty long resume to be judged on, not just one part of one season. Secondly, the team Henderson took deep in the tourney was a full roster team with WAY more talent than what Novak had available. Heck, if was pretty impressive to me that Novak's team actually improved after his most talented player left. And finally, basketball and baseball are just 2 different sports. To me, in game coaching in basketball is a bigger piece to the game than baseball especially in college where you can play different styles of ball. Novak is a much younger, hungrier guy ready to prove something if he can. Henderson was not that at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
It will be an absolute shock if Cohen hires Novak. He is likely going to hire someone else to show us how smart he is. I wish he would just give Novak a couple of years to see how he would do with a full roster and his own staff and go big game hunting on the men's side. If Novak doesn't work then you can always go find someone else after that. Heck, we can pay a men's BB coach more if we save money by giving Novak the job on the women's side and the entire roster will stay. If we get a new coach its going to be a total rebuild on the women's side.Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
Word or rumor he said NO.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaggardDawg
That comparison is always going to be terrible because Henderson had already been an SEC coach for 8 years before being fired for only making the tournament twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
If Novak had been a failure at an SEC job already, nobody would be saying to keep him on.
Can we get back to the original topic? If the womens basketball cult wants to start the 178th thread on why Doug Novak should coach the mens, womens,Starkville high, and Starkville Academy on Tuesdays then start your own damn thread.
My opinion on the job, if we were to somehow pull McMahon I think it could be viewed as the best coaching hire made by an MSU AD in the modern era. He is a sitting HC, not an up and comer asst. and he has no personal or NCAA baggage. Saying that I think it probably comes down to Chris Jans or Bob Richey. Richey wants the job so it would not make it past him.
He's qualified enough, given the relative importance of women's basketball, and he's proven he can do the job (mostly). Paper qualifications aren't necessarily everything - e.g., Nikki. I say hire Novak and concentrate on other things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I ask IYOK a question, sorry it caused problems but I ain't gonna apologize** LOL Hire Novak, LOL (all in fun Vegas)Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yes? How qualified do you have to be to manage a money losing sport? We should pay him bottom of the league pay and give him a chance to prove himself. We went out and spent money when we had the chance to maintain a nationally prominent program, which was reasonable. If you're a top five program, the exposure makes up for losing money. But it didn't work out (to say the least). Unlike baseball, there's no reason to think we're going to be national championship competitors again anytime soon, so we don't need to spend a lot of money hoping for a miracle. We can hope for a miracle while we save money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Put me in the camp of richey. He isn't my first choice, but I don't think we hit on top choices.
So, with all the knocks on Howland for only making the NCAA's once, we should hire a guy who can't win the the SoCon and has never made the NCAA's? Richey may be a good coach, but what makes you think he can make a jump ahead of where Howland has had us?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
THIS is the correct philosophyQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
All indications are he will take it if offered. I think he would be a solid hire. A B to a B-. Then again everyone railed Bama for hiring Nate Oats and all he has done is take them to the tourney every year except his 1st.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
So has every other SEC school. Most of the SEC will be looking for new coaches this year or next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Over many years there are much bigger and richer schools who haven't been able to find/keep a quality basketball coach. I hope we can.
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Very concerning but I guess when you don't get your first few then you go with best next available. I'd rather gamble on someone who would want to be hereQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
I've never called for howland to be fired except for maybe in an irrational fit during a gameQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
That's not what I'm saying 7. You said you were in the camp for Richey. I'm not asking if you support firing Howland, just what makes you think he can do better than Howland - since I assume by replacing Howland we are looking for someone who could do better.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7