We are NIT bound and will underachieve. Howland will "retire" at the end of the season.
Will be interesting to see where this program goes from here as we head into April
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We are NIT bound and will underachieve. Howland will "retire" at the end of the season.
Will be interesting to see where this program goes from here as we head into April
We are a lifeless basketball program because our HC is lifeless who coaches our team to play a boring, lifeless brand of basketball. Our BB program has potential but it will never go anywhere with Howland. Yes, we could hire worse if we get a guy like a Rick Ray again who can't recruit but we have to at least TRY to hire better.
We are the worst team in basketball in the last 5 minutes of the game. Why can we not just give Brooks the Ball. He was money tonight
We did a terrible job of getting the ball to Brooks or doing things to get Molinar shots. Terrible plan offensivelyQuote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Lather, rinse, repeat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Yep same ole story with Ben. I'm truly hoping he retires. Who knows if we can do better but we gotta try something this is boring and frustrating as heck to watch year after year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Paging Sean Miller, Paging Sean Miller.
John Cohen doesn't have the balls to hire anything but another retread or outside the box nobody. Nothings going to change.
He should save the renovation money and put it toward football if that's what he's going to do again.
UT started face guarding Molinar the last 4:30 of the game and took him out. Very nice coaching move by Barnes. We had no counter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Molinar had 2 shots the first 15 mins of the game. Enough saidQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I think the Hump renovation starts this offseason??
We were so "out of control" the last 5 minutes. Panic set in and we fell apart, we made no adjustments and just played street ball.
Yes, it is time Ben resigns, good guy who can't get us "over the hump".
^^^^This^^^^ Increase our Football budget and staff. Bowl in South Endzone with condo/convention center/Luxury suites. Chairback the lower level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Re-seat basketball putting the students on the floor 3/4 around the court like Auburn, Duke, etc.
For Basketball hire a good young mid major coach that runs a exciting up tempo offense. Don?t waste money on a coach who?s best days are behind him.
We've actually known who are for a while now! There were a few here that just didn't want to admit it!
Don't waste any emotional energy on our basketball program. It is totally broken. There are so many issues beyond just a coach. Pains me to say this because I can count on one hand how many home games I missed from 2002 to 2012.
it will take a driven visionary to fix it and that certainly isn't Cohen.
We are going to win the NIT. I can just feel it.
Sup Greg Marshall
We harbored concerns but were hopeful things would get worked out and it would all come together. Just didn?t happen. Very disappointing game and season. Ben/John have been allowed plenty of time to get it done but now it?s time for Keenum to make changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Yeah. I barely pay attention anymore to that sport but I always want State to win at everything. I was surprised folks expected anything other than what is happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
I don't know how anyone can watch MSU basketball. I checked out after the Renardo Sidney fiasco and it's only gotten worse. It's the most boring and uninspired sports team we field at State.
Just fire the coach, that always works.
Doesn?t always work but sometimes it?s warranted. As in now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
We know that D1 and especially Power 5/FBS football are changing strategically, culturally and financially fast as i can type.
It brings to thought what is our true strategy going forward? Can we compete as we want to expect at the sports that are important to us?
How do we best allocate our resources? What now and how much are our resources?
How much debt service remains on the football and baseball stadium projects and what part of the budget are those?
I think the fanbase understanding more of this would bring more transparency to what we are truly capable of emphasizing and what we are not?
The organized labor and "university employee" status debate could change strategy greatly!
Yeah it's time for ben to hang em up. Every game plays out the same way. We start slow get behind, catch up a little by the half, play ok to begin the second half and play like crap with to's and scoreless droughts the last 5-7 minutes of the game. Lather, rinse, repeat. You can't tell one game from the next with us because they're all just alike, replays.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton
Amazing how much better we would be with another good guard though. Howland and staff lost these games in the transfer portal.
Leadership and coaching. Which there is none. We don't have a Jimmy Chitwood/Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
https://youtu.be/TdT_PiRLsaI
Yeah it's kinda sad. We don't have the Jamont Gordons, Timmy Bowers, Derrick Zimmermans, Darryl Wilsons, etc. Howlands brought in some talent but we just haven't seemed to find those type players who lead and know how to get it done. We're more like watching an aau team. 5 individuals no team concept.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Well, he's retiring anyway, so there's that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
After his first two years building from the Rick ray debacle, Ben has had us in the tournament or the NIT five years in a row. Are we sure we are a better program than that?
And that's playing in a Sunday school environment every home game where our fans don't show up and our administration does nothing to encourage students to show up.
This and it's been that way since Jamont last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
No, we are definitely not a better program than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Maybe true, but it's obvious it's a time for a change. Ben looks tired, the team looks tired, the whole program looks lifeless and depressed. It's time and I believe Ben knows it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Not if the other team applies either a full court press or at a minimum guards us down the court. I swear, there is literally zero reasons why Starkville High School couldn't hold us in check with those two simple easy defensive adjustments/schemes.Quote:
Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw
Simple and 100% effective against our team and has been for 7 years.
Was this in jest?Quote:
Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw
Totally agree. Now I'll make a comment that will go viral and probably lead to getting thread locked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We have the same major coaching stuck in mud mentality also in football with Leach. Neither adjust in game, neither adjust to our skill or opponents weakness. Both just do what we do and we seek to execute perfectly to win. Both have won before but are basically washed up by the game today.
Have fun defending how Leach is any different than Howland?
I agree. I'm just not sure our administration is not more to blame than howland. We made a conscious decision to kill attendance and the environment, which makes it hard to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Yeah, the guard he got in the portal is DJ which don't fit the need.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
At least Leach runs a Bi-Polar Pogram that has its Manic Moments of Big Wins while Howland's Program is 100% Mentally Depressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
I personally feel Howland is a much better coach and program leader than Leach.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
I hope we hire the dirtiest SOB out there.......Gregg Marshall, Sean Miller, Pitino I don't care at this point.......We're in a league with some of the most egregious cheaters of all-time (Cal, Bruce Pearl, Will Wade).......