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are gonna wind up?
Is it next year or the next?
I am sure it 100% depends on when OU and TX are coming this way. I assume they will be cleared to fully join the competition in conference next year, because it is worth too much money to not get it going.
I still like the idea that there are 4 pods. ABCD
Matchups include each pod plays 2 other pods, plus half of another one and it rotates every two years.
First 4 Years
A Plays B and C and Half of D
B Plays A and D and half of C
C Plays D and A and Half of B
D Plays C and B and half of A
Every 4 years, everyone would play everyone, home and away. Each Pod is set on playing 2 other pods every year. The other pod they play 2 teams cycles every two years.
The pods could be organized to maintain rivalries, I suppose.
Pod A - TX, OU, aTm, and Ark
Pod B - Ole Miss, LSU, MSU, MO
Pod C - Bama, Auburn, TN, Vandy
Pod D - UF, UsCe, Kentucky, GA
That is by strict geographical location. It is time to revamp the SEC into new traditions and to lock down the members to 16 permenantly.
9 game SEC season.
3 Non-Conference on 3 set weekends. Fix the Bye's to coincide on 2 weekends in the middle of the year to eliminate that advantage.
Here is the schedule as I see it. Fixed every year, so the overall schedule should be pretty damn easy to make out.
Week 1 - Non-conference for half, with half conference games (NC1) (sec 1)
Week 2 - Non-Conference for half, with half conference games (NC1) (sec 1)
Week 3 - Conference Games (sec 2)
Week 4 - Conference Games (sec 3)
Week 5 - Conference Games (sec 4)
Week 6 Bye Week for half Non Conference games for Half (NC2)
Week 7 Bye Week for half Non conference games for half (NC2)
Week 8 - Conference Games (sec 5)
Week 9 - Conference Games (sec 6)
Week 10 - Conference Games (sec 7)
Week 11 - Non-Conference for half, with half conference games (NC3) (sec 8)
Week 12 - Non-Conference for half, with half conference games (NC3) (8)
Week 13 - Week 10 - Conference Games (9)
Week 14 - SEC Championship Game - Best Record, TB1 Head to head, TB2 Common Opponent, TB3 CFP Ranking
4 pods
A&M, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss
Arkansas, Missouri, Texas, Oklahoma
Alabama, Auburn, Kentucky, Vanderbilt
Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina
All 4 pods as balanced as they can be competitively and geographically tight
Play 10 game conference schedule: the 3 in your pod, plus 2 of the 4 in each other pod, plus 1 more game to preserve rivalries:
Texas - Texas A&M
Auburn - Georgia
Ole Miss - Vanderbilt
Mississippi State - Kentucky
LSU - Arkansas
South Carolina - Missouri
Alabama - Tennessee
Florida - Oklahoma (not really a rivalry but good game)
If your permanent rivalry gets drawn as a rotating opponent (it will half the time), play another team of similar level. You could probably set it up so that everybody has 2 permanent rivals, and you draw whichever 1 isn't on your rotating schedule, but it would take careful setting up of the schedules. That would allow games like Alabama-LSU and maybe A&M-Oklahoma to become annual events.
Why would you separate texas and aTm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I'd go...
Texas, aTm, Oklahoma, LSU
State, bama, OM, auburn
Mizzou, ark, Kentucky, tenn
Georgia, Florida, SC, vandy
Something like that.
State needs Vandy as permanent. OM or Ark can have Kentucky as a permanent. If your going to switch it up, might as well. We have no rivalry with Kentucky.
Because it's more balanced in the arrangement I suggested and lets A&M continue it's some exciting new rivalries.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I definitely kept it as a permanent rivalry though.
I understand the balance deal, but I think geography is a better plan. Teams are up and down over time. Now if you rebalance every 5 years or so, I can go with competitive balanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Whatever the alignment it will almost certainly be a nine game conference schedule. Four team pods make the most since, that way teams can play each other more frequently than happens now.
Hell, I wish they'd go 10-game sec schedule. I absolutely can't stand weekends where sec teams play total garbage. Drop the P5 requirement, and just require it be a G5 or up, and play 10 sec games. Bowls suck now anyway since opt outs, and the sec champ would be in playoffs no matter whatQuote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
They're not putting UK and Vandy in the same 4-team pod.
I don't see that happening, nine game will almost certainly eliminate the FCS payday games. The G5 games are hear to stay. I agree with your premise the two weeks leading up to rivalry week are some shitty football for the most part. It would be nice to see all the payday games at the front of the schedule but the nine game schedule may result in fewer cross country/conference P5 match ups.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Here is the way I see it shaking out:
Pod A
1) A&M
2) Oklahoma
3) Texas
4) Mizzou
Pod B
1) LSU
2) Arkansas
3) OM
4) State
Pod C
1) Bama
2) Auburn
3) Kentucky
4) Tenn
Pod D
1) UGA
2) UF
3) USC
4) Vandy
This gives the conference potential POD division winners of: A&M or OK, LSU, Bama, and UGA. They'll be a pecking order within the PODS based on historical relevancy, so they can create desirable matchups from "division" winners.
Mine is close to yours
Pod A
1) A&M
2) Oklahoma
3) Texas
4) Mizzou
Pod B
1) LSU
2) Arkansas
3) OM
4) State
Pod C
1) Bama
2) Auburn
3) Florida
4) UGA
Pod D
1) KY
2) Tenn
3) USC
4) Vandy
Will never happen due to Pod C.
Pods A the Same. Pod B BAMA AUBBIE LSU MSU, Pad C OM TN Vandy ARKY, Pod D KY FLA UGA USCe/
Pod A
Fla
Ga
SC
Vandy
Pod B
Auburn
Bammer
Tenn
UK
Pod C
LSU
MSU
UNM
Mizzu
Pod D (SWC Pod)
A&M
Ark
Tx
OU
1 permanent team and the rest will rotate in a yearly rotation ensuring that all teams play home and away in the league as much as possible with a 9 game schedule.
The pod idea sucks. Go to a 9 game league schedule, keep 2-3 permanent opponents and then rotate everyone else. Keep scheduling one P5 out of conference game. Scrap the conference championship game and go to an 8 or 16 team playoff.
Way to much $$$$ in the championship games for them to go away.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
Without a legit playoff, the less SEC games we play the better. Otherwise we just have even more of a chance to beat each other up while the other conferences just cup-cake their way in.
I do think the pod idea is cool, but how do you handle the conference championship game reasonably? And if it doesn't relate to the pods, then what's the point of the pods really.
Geographically, I've seen a few different ways you could do the pods that make sense, so I think there's plenty of options there.
It would never happen, but I'd like to see us get rid of divisions and permanent opponents and rotate everyones schedule while keeping an 8 game conference slate.
Pod A
Miss St
Ole Miss
Arkansas
LSU
Pod B
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Pod C
Oklahoma
Texas
Texas A&M
Missouri
Pod D
Georgia
Florida
Kentucky
South Carolina
Cross Pod Permanent Opponents
Miss St - Kentucky
Ole Miss- Vanderbilt
Arkansas - Texas
LSU- Florida
Auburn- Georgia
The rest i have no clue
But I really think those pods are as balanced as you can get and as best as you can do it
OU was never in the SWC. They and Mizzou were Big 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Switch UK and Tennessee and I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
They were but for a very short period of time (OU not Missouri)Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
So are you saying A pod wouldn't play the teams in its own pod? Also, if a team plays all the teams in 2 pods and half in another, that's 10 games. This is based on your example of:
A Plays B and C and Half of D
Agree. No divisions, 3 permanent + 6 of the other 12 is the best system. But I think it's the least likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
If all conferences agree to scrap the championship games in exchange for a larger playoff, there's probably more money to be had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
I've never understood the resistance to a I-AA or DII style playoff. DII teams play 10 regular season games, FCS play 11 games. Playoffs are broken into 4 regions of 7 teams - 28 teams total. #1 seed in each region gets a first round bye. 5 potential playoff games. We should drop 1 fluff game and go with the 28 team playoff. Conference Champs get auto-spot and then the rest are at-large selected by committee that also seeds teams. Screw the bowl games and make a real champ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Why not just 2 divisions with 8 teams each?Quote:
Originally Posted by donald igwebuike
Texas in the West, Oklahoma in the East.Quote:
Originally Posted by RocketDawg
Close enough for government work.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
I believe a deal was made with A&M and they get to choose whether they are in the pod w/ Texas or not. I will be hard, IMO, for UT, OU, and A&M to be in the same pod.
If you count 1920.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
If they do that, it will be Alabama and Auburn to the East, and Missouri, Texas, and Oklahoma to the West.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish
This will better balance the divisions and make no need for permanent opponents.
However, I still would rather 3 permanent, 6 rotating than 7/1 or 7/2 because I want to play everyone more often
I like that, the set up now sux, The scheduling is broken and this is one way to fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15
Just do it by athletic budgets