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Deep down inside I think a lot of people were probably thinking that factored into his decision........
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Hahahahhahahahah... someone should tell the "young athletes"
Wow
Lmao at that reply to the tweet. What a dubmass.
If it did, its the smartest thing he has done all season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Volunteering to go from the Big XII to the SEC is like asking to switch from fighting Jake Paul to Canelo. The payday may be higher, but holy hell you are gonna get beat up.
Just ask Jimbo how much he is liking the SEC. He has a 34-14 record. CDM just got fired after going 34-15. So yeah, enjoy the West coast and having to play one or two tough games a season. Its the smart move. Its why Kiffin bolts for Miami if that job comes open.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
And the SECW is a Murderer's Row. Georgia played Georgia Southern and Georgia Tech back to back while Alabama played a hyped Arkansas and Auburn. The West is a butcher shop.
I like to think most coaches that reach the top of the profession aren't pussesQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Georgia played Charleston Southern, a step up from where GSU is currently. Big difference.****Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Agreed. Smh at some of these people.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Thanks Scooba. I can embed a YouTube vid but for the life of me can't embed a Tweet.
Yeah.....what a leftist reply. Pretty typical tho. Riley simply didn't want the stiff competition in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
You would think.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I wonder if Sark is looking to jump ship too.
If your goal is to win a national championship - you take the job that gives you the best shot. Do you think Dabo is called a ***** for staying at Clemson and bum rushing the ACC and not playing a single good team until the playoffs was a bitch move?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I sure don't. I don't get why people think that there is a degree of difficulty awarded to the team that wins the national title. There isn't. You make the playoffs and you win two games. Making the playoffs is the key here.
USC has name recognition and can be a top 10 program with the right coach and has the schedule to make it happen.
OU is staring at becoming Nebraska. Their knowledgable fans know this is coming. They are about to become Nebraska. No amount of coaching can stop what is coming. They are going from playing Kansas, KSU and Iowa State to Georgia, Bama, and LSU. When you are the first to sell a failing stock, doesn't make you a *****, it makes you the smartest man in the room.
Lincoln is a whinerQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Take it as you will.
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I completely get it, he made the smart move viewed from 10,000 ft. Go to a situation with all the resources you could ask for, and not have to go much more that 100 miles in any direction to recruit. If we could get out of the SEC and into the ACC and still receive the check we are getting from the conference it would be a no brainer, alas, that ain't happening.
Yeah, if I was a coach I would do whatever gave me the best shot at winning a NC. Wherever or whatever that might be. The moneys great yes, but most competitors want that championship above anything else and you do whatever it takes to get it. If it means moving on from where you're at you do it, at least I would.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Dabo has an elite program. Why would he leave? Do you think he'd bolt if Clemson joined the sec? I think notQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
^^^THIS^^^Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Texas and OU have both benefitted a lot from being in the Big 12 and not a stronger conference. Their teams would likely have been better if they had been in the SEC and gotten challenged in the regular season more, but their records would have been much worse. Oklahoma is probably about to turn into A&M, and be a good program that is arguably more relevant nationally than they are in their own conference.
Of course with a pod system, maybe more SEC teams will be able to stay in the playoff hunt with the entire conference not having to go through either Bama or UGA.
Dabo has an elite program and still would have his championship opportunities probably cut in half if he joined the SEC. Oklahoma is not quite elite and will go from being in the playoff discussion almost every year to it being the exception. I don't think Riley is a p**** for recognizing that OU fans are going to have expectations that are not realistically attainable with OU being in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
When is the last time a pac12 team was in the playoffs? Oklahoma woulda had a tougher path for sure, but they'd also get players they couldn't before bc that SEC patch on the helmetQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Give me a break. Elite coaches aren't afraid of competition. They thrive on it to build their egos. If they're afraid of competition, then they wash up
You are missing my point. Clemson wasn't always an elite program. Spurrier shoved it in his face for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He stayed at Clemson and benefited from not playing in the SEC. He didn't leave for jobs in the SEC because he knew he had an easier path to the playoffs in the ACC. Hell for years, he couldn't beat SC. The reason he was able to make the playoffs was because he signed Watson and didn't have to play top 15 teams every other weekend.
Why would you want to volunteer to play in the SEC West right now. I mean LSU is a 6-6 team. A&M is an 8-4 team. These are talented programs with recruiting bases and tons of money.
If my life is on the line and I can fight one guy, or I can fight 5 guys at once. I'm not a ***** for choosing to fight one guy. It shows I'm rational.
We'll see about Riley. I think that mindset is a weak one. Riley didn't run Oklahoma off the rails, but he didn't elevate the program... he just maintained what stoops built. Lincoln will have to build now.
Yeah - thats why it is so easy for Vanderbilt to hire great coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
Dan Mullen is a good football coach. He just got fired for going 34-15. Jimbo is making almost 10 million and he is 34-14.
You know make good coaches? Very smart people. Coach O is a moron. Les Miles is a moron. Lincoln Riley just made a very smart move for his career. Who knows if it will pan out, but based on the early returns of how every CA kid that OU had committed is about to switch to USC, it would seem like it was a very smart move for him.
If your goal is to live - and you had to fight 4 people or 1 person, why is it a weak mindset to choose to fight 4 people at once.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That simply isn't rational. Coach O would choose to fight 4 people.
A smart coach would fight 1 person, and try and figure out how to get the other 4 people to help him fight the one person.
You should recruit for us...Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
"Hey 4-star in Brookhaven, why go to state where it will hard to win when bama wants you? It's just smart bc it's the easier path to winning"
Thank God some kids still have a pair unlike Riley haha
Lets not act like USCw isn't a destination job. They've sucked for 10 years but its still a premier brand and its in Los Angeles. Its just not going to resonate with your typical SEC fan.
There's absolutely potential, but they've done nothing since the early 2000s. They've won the pac12 1 time in the last 14 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
I actually wish usc would rebound bc it's good for CFB, but I have a hard time pulling for a coach that's scared.
And Ed o has a natty. Why? Bc the talent is here (south). The best players wanna play in the best conferenceQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
How many recruiting battles have we won against Bama in the last 10 years? You think a winning strategy for our football team is to go head to head against Bama? We beat them for Simmons and who else? I'm genuinely trying to think of who else we beat them out for?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Now, if you are just trying to have a sound bite and not actually answer the question, then that is cool with me. Recruiting a kid to your school is way different than choosing a school to coach at. You do understand that, right? There are lots of ways to get kids to campus, but if you are a coach - its way easier to recruit at LSU and Bama than it is at the oxford and MSU. I mean, is that a point you are arguing?
Whatever Riley is doing, is working for USC since OU has lost about 5-6 four and five star commits in the last 24 hours, they are all leaving for USC apparently.
If you just want to call Riley a *****, I'm here for it, but you also have to admit that it is the smart move if he wants to win a national title. If you can't admit that, then you are just trolling. I guess since Bucky has disappeared, you are bored. lol
Whoa, whoa, - Ed O has a natty because LSU has a great recruiting base and LSU can guarantee top 5 recruiting classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
How is being in the best conference helping Vandy, Mizzou, SC, Us, the bears, Arkansas, TN in landing Five Star recruits?
Please tell me how many five stars these schools have ready to play for them, because they are in the SEC? I'll hang up and listen.
2 days ago you said Riley was a "great hire" at LSU. Now it's a "we'll see" thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Did running over to USC totally change your mindset on him?
Didn't realize vandy, mizzou, SC, us, OM, ark, and tenn were on Oklahoma's level? CoolQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
That mindset. I don't think great competitors have that mindset. Now I see why he wanted no part of the nfl, he doesn't want any part of equal competitionQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
ETA... for all the hell ive given leach, at least he wasn't scared to go play with the big boys
Les Miles is not a moron. Les Miles refused to change his offense to modern times. While you can question how smart that is, it's a very common trait among veteran coaches.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
The argument for that kid would be he could play right away though, right? Which would be less competition for playing time if you really think about it. It's a good opportunity to bring a previous college football power back to prominence. Maybe he's looking at it that way. You're not wrong in saying he's taking the easier path but I don't necessarily think it's a bad move haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
My comment was in jest, but I coulda made it realistic by saying some of these fringe sec recruits could go to big10 and other conferences bc they have better shots at winning that middle of pack sec schools. For the most part though, they come to sec schools bc great competitors wanna compete against the bestQuote:
Originally Posted by bigplayslay
You do understand that you are basically calling out Saban? Saban has admitted that he left the NFL because he couldn't sign or draft more than one impact player a year. He said screw it, I'm going to a school that I can sign 10 first round picks every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
So is Saban not a great competitor? Does he not have the right mindset? He chose an opportunity that allowed him an advantage over his current job, despite running away from the NFL. To go to a Bama program that was in shambles.
This should be an interesting response.
He left Miami bc the DA doctors at Miami failed brees in spite of him pushing for drew. In college, he makes all the decisions so his fate is in his hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
As a saints fan, good job, dolphin doctors