Here is a recent quote from him.
? I don?t care about the yards. I just want to win.
If we have to run it 40 times to win, we will. If we have to throw it 40 times to win, we will. ?
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Here is a recent quote from him.
? I don?t care about the yards. I just want to win.
If we have to run it 40 times to win, we will. If we have to throw it 40 times to win, we will. ?
I ain't happy right now either but I think it would be best if we give him a year 3. If he ain't happy and thinks he made a mistake coming here then I'd be okay with him saving us some coin to bolt.
Give leach 4 years and see what happens. We can’t just keep firing people
If we start hearing that the attitude of the team is dying, and the effort on the field is slacking then we can start to look at other options. But, our youth has lead us to a 2-2 start, we should be 4-0. But, heck we would still be ole missing ourselves over wanting to fire Leach if we were 4-0, some people just cannot be happy.
Leach would LITERALLY have a 4-0 record right now if we had a special teams coach that actually taught the rules of the game to the guys we have on special teams.
He and Matt Brock are "allowing it to happen", to use his words.
He won't stand for it much longer, and we will not shoot ourselves in the foot much longer.
Leach aint gettin' fired in year 2. Yall are F'd in the head.
No respectable coach is coming if we fire a nationally known coach after two years.
$5 million says "IFFY" to what you say. I don't believe the Pirate will be fired after year two unless he comes unglued with a statement like "Go Kick Some Rocks".Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
Not sure we can get a polished HC from a D1 program unless we double there pay. Trust me from an ex Coach, money talks especially from a young Coach.
I know we aren?t firing Leach unless he goes 4-8 or worse with some bad beat downs and loses the team.
Just pointing out the Hafley thinks like everyone here does. He is 42. He makes $3 million per year. And he has coached at Ohio State and is getting experience at BC as a head coach in a Power 5 conference. 10-5 in his first two seasons in Chestnut Hill.
Of course, Cohen would probably hire a Special Teams Coach in his 1st year to replace Leach.
Leach needs a come to Jesus meeting with the guys paying his salary. Get his shit together or they will call in Jackie and his Steer making friends to get his attention.
Agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
We can get a good coach for the money. We got OC coach of year for 1.8M, 5M will get a lot of interest. We don't need Saban, we need a Pittman - the right guy for MSU. Joe nor Leach fit MSU at all. We have lost what has made MSU great - maroon blooded folks. We just getting fly bys now wanting a pay day.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
Do people on here really believe that Cohen hires the football coach (after consulting with Keenum)? If so, they are delusional. The folks who pony up the $$$ to pay the coach (the amount in excess of what the state of Mississippi allows) make the final decision. The so called "cigar boys" play a big role in the final hire. Blame Cohen all you want, but it just shows how little you really know.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Y?all think the penny pinching athletic dept would pay leachs buyout and pay a premium for a coach? Believe it when I see ot
Been that way a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
This guy appears to be good, but you take him and I'll take Dave Clausen at Wake Forrest.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Half this board would be demanding his head in Year 2, and would be tired of him by Year 5. And most of the board would be ready to move on after Year 7.Quote:
Originally Posted by schddog72
Wake Forest Demon Deacons (Atlantic Coast Conference) (2014-present)
2014 Wake Forest 3-9 1-7
2015 Wake Forest 3-9 1-7
2016 Wake Forest 7-6 3-5 W Military
2017 Wake Forest 8-5 4-4 W Belk
2018 Wake Forest 7-6 3-5 W Birmingham
2019 Wake Forest 8-5 4-4 L Pinstripe
2020 Wake Forest 4-5 3-4 L Duke's Mayo
I only blame Cohen for the Leach hire if Cohen actually hired him over Clawson. If Clawson turned us down or didn?t express interest then looking at the big picture we didn?t have much of a choice to go with Leach. Chadwell would?ve been our Sam Pittman, but he was new to coastal Carolina then and still developing the program for a good assessment. Bill Clark would?ve been the only other option and while I think Clark is a good coach he would win the games he is supposed to win but never beat a top team. Basically Mullen 2.0 but a bit worse. Of course I would take that over the results we see now, but we can?t be like Tennessee and consistently hire bad coaches over and over. If Leach doesn?t work out and we have to fire him end of next season then someone needs to step in with actual football knowledge and make the hire.
How about we stay away from hiring coaches that don't have SEC experience. We should have learned our lesson by now.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
Can this be stickied somewhere? Would be a big time saver fo sho.Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
Okay. I?ll play.
Who were Cohen(read Cigar boys) first, second and third choices before Cohen showed up in a picture with Leach in front of the Leach Pool in Key West?
Didn?t JC say that Leach was the only coach he went after? That he got his man of choice after the supposedly not true Billy Napier debacle?Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
I think enough time has passed that I can share this.
We had feelers out before EB. Cohen had made the decision after the UT game but was going by to get through the season. Then we luck up and beat OM.
Napier was choice one, and had we made the move right after the EB it was his to turn down. When we didn't fire SloMo immediately he let his agent know he wasn't no longer interested. Then Cohen trying to be the smartest guy in the world has a come to Jesus meeting with SloMo and we'll SloMo did what SloMo does and we lost the bowl game. Cohen went back to Napier but he and his agent basically told us to 17 off. Cohen decided to now pursue a few courtesy interviews, Bill Clark was very interested but JC being JC went after judge. From what I was told he had all but agreed to the job but told JC that he did want to go through the interview process with the Giants. I don't blame him one bit for doing this as he has always wanted to be an NFL HC. Jude was even putting feelers out for staff at state. Then much to the surprise of all involved the giants hired judge. JC had no back up plan. Imagine that! So he now knows he has to make a splash hire with OM hiring LK and basically being turned down by two other candidates. So Cohen and crew went all in on ML including two or three trips in a week to key west to sign him.
I may be missing a few details on this but this is how it played out.
All of this is basically true, except Cohen was still wanting to get rid of JoMo after the EB, but Keenum wouldn’t let him. He basically told him there is no way we fire a coach after winning 2 egg bowls. So JoMo and Cohen had the meeting. After the bowl game, Cohen told Keenum it wasn’t his choice anymore and fore JoMo. Keenum cost us Napier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
Judge was coming and going to be like Pittman. I think kt would have worked well. Will Hall was supposedly interested in our OC spot and I never heard who the DC was. Judge was all in on hiring a good staff and letting them do their jobs. Once the Giants offered Judge, it threw Cohen for a loop.
Leach was then approached and he told Cohen it would be a process due to pretty much having to do a roster overhaul. We had a real problem under JoMo. Leach told Cohen it was going to be his way and his way only. Cohen agreed.
Dudnt duh bulk of the Jack come from our Cigar Boys?Quote:
Originally Posted by William Tecumsah Sherman
I'm still not sold on Joe Judge. The Giants are a trainwreck.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
Yes, it comes from “Donations”.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
But winning the Natty in baseball has made a lot of the boosters say to hell with football and focus whatever we need on baseball.
Look, we will never win anything of value in football. The SEC, NCAA, and Ole Miss will make sure of that. Leach has a history or doing more with less. We just have to give him time. If we are winning with a system that has a bunch of 3 start recruits, there is nothing anyone can say. We just have to give it time to implement.
We’ll know recruiting rankings are shit. That’s why when we get a commit he drops to a 3 star and when he decommits and commits to Bama, he jumps to a 4 star. They will take it from us everytime unless it’s a no doubter like Jeffrey Simmons.
Yeah this, they got problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
17 this. I refuse to believe we have "given up on football" cuz of our Ole Miss Ain't Here Again Natty.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
We haven't in fact we have a trust fund that was left to us that's specifically for football and we have many many donors who want to be successful in football. Yes we have factions now that are more pro baseball but they always have been just like we have big donors who give more to basketballQuote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
I can tell you this we have several big boys who want to win in football and are making it known out there to t people who make decisions. We will be patient but we want results and what we are seeing is not selling them on the ROI.
Thank you. I reckon nobody's jerking to football ROI these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgfan77
My bad previously; actually his name is spelled Clawson. He's still my man, though . . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by schddog72
Nah. We probably have as good a chance at getting Mr. Clausen of Pickles Brand fame to be our head coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by schddog72
Will also add that Sarkisian was the next guy in line if Leach had turned it down. And he likely would have accepted. He may have left after one year, but still.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35