So far Jack only has a brief mention. Looking for a section on Jack.
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So far Jack only has a brief mention. Looking for a section on Jack.
Nice segment on Jack.
I understand that Tennessee, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia and Florida have remarkable wins in some very meaningful games. They have wins against their rivals. Some have national championships. Some have players that are know by just mentioning the players first name. They all had/have very good play by play announcers. But growing up in a Mississippi State University family with a dad that loved everything MSU but especially MSU football. And all of my life listening to one voice call State football. Jack Cristil was in my opinion in a league of his own as far as announcers are graded!
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Can We have one damn thing, that we do, without mentioning Ole Miss? I mean damn... the immaculate deflection????!! Cmon. Just once, please.
Jack Cristil was so good and broadcasted for 50 years. There was plenty of material and stories.
I grew up a UGA fan in Ga - and to me Larry Munson will always be the best. It took me a while to appreciate Jack. I thought he was boring because I was so used to Larry's histrionics and unabashed homerism. Between Larry and Skip Caray, I thought that was the only way to call games. Where I began to appreciate Jack was listening to him do basketball. I always thought he was a helluva basketball play by play guy and really felt like he flowed well with the game.
I like Neil and think he does a great job but damn if I don't miss Jack.
This is probably going to be taken the wrong way. But some of that clip makes me mad and should make us mad.
The first half is all about how bad we are at football, the wind blowing the ball back, the Sonic Drive of the Game and the MSU people just laughing about it.
THAT'S A PROBLEM and why we are perceived poorly.
Now, yes it did show the 1999 Egg Bowl and some other good highlights. But the clip of Jackie handing Jack a football from a big one and the narrator talking about how bad our football program is just hit me the wrong way.
Flame away.
There is plenty of nostalgia to like in that clip, but you're not wrong. It seems we always have to lower/reduce ourselves...the general "tone" of the segment was probably a condition of LT to even be included, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
1980 was a huge win, and I love hearing Jack's call...but there are others we could've included in addition...rather than the self-deprecating stuff. I don't mind the "drive home to Tupelo" bit, since that shows Jack's humor, but MSU always seems to be made out to be the joke of the conference, and we seemingly just accept it. Not only do we mention OM in our segment, but its a loss to OM, lol. WTF.
This is also a reminder of our home games being played in Jackson rather that Starkville, and should make everyone of us sick.
During that time, did OM do the same? Did they play their home Egg Bowl games in Jackson or in Oxford?
The fact we also elected to play Bama and other schools in Jackson rather than at home just shows the levels of self sabotage we were willing to inflict upon ourselves. It's honestly a wonder we've ever had any football success considering our past.
OM, Arkansas, Alabama and I believe Auburn too played home games in the largest city in their state rather than on campus in those days. Alabama played in Birmingham just as much as Tuscaloosa.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
OM played just as many games as we did in Jackson in the 70 and 80s. OM played a few games in Jackson until 1993 or 94. We quit after the 90 season. Arkansas was playing multiple games as late 2010 in Little Rock. I believe Alabama played one home game a year in Bham as late as 96.
You aren't wrong in games Belong on campus. But we just did what everyone else did in those days.
I agree Todd.. I felt it was a self-deprecating piece. Was it even mentioned he did pxp for basketball? I remember well listening to him call a State win over Kentucky in basketball (early 80s).
Ah, thanks for that bit of info. Wasn't aware that was normal back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Scott Field didn't have lights til the mid or late 80s. Had to bring in portable lights for our first night game.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
ETA: 1982 beat LSU 27-24
Nope but they mentioned that Bear Bryant came to our locker room and talked to our team. They make that out like that is some accomplishment. Truth is he was probably drunk and went to the wrong locker room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Hahaha. Yeah. I always thought that was a arrogant move. Or at least the way we tell the story makes me believe it was arrogant.
Yep. My first was the egg bowl when Archie was on the sideline with arm in cast. '69 or '70 and i was 6 or 7. As I grew older I always liked how you'd just about know where all 22 were before snap. Nobody visualized the field with their voice bettern JACK. I know he slowed towards the end but didn't matter to me. I wanted to kick several young 17's asses on here with this "time to retire shit". I bet Jack wanted to die in the booth with a cig and whiskey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ranchdawg
This was Jack at his best. Just a phenomenal pxp guy.
https://youtu.be/6Qi5a1r6i1E
You obviously didn't grow up in the 70's-early 90's because both us and Ole Miss played three home games or a more in Jackson, and both teams home Egg Bowl games were in Jackson from I believe 1973-90. Some years us and Ole Miss would play four games each in Jackson(counting the Egg Bowl). We'd also play DHers with Ole Miss playing an SEC opponent as well as us. Vaught-Hemingway didn't even get lights until 1990. Jackson held 60,000 plus while both Scott Field and Vaught held in the low 30,000's. Much more profitable to play in Jackson then. That changed with on campus lights and stadium expansions. Bama and Auburn treated Birmingham the same during this period.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Playing in Jackson was ok. The stadium was the twice the size of Scott Field.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
The problem was us selling so many home games. We played in Baton Rouge 20 out of 23 years or some ridiculous amount in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. We would play our home games against Auburn in B'ham and other places. Just a very terrible, stupid job of managing athletics in the old days.
I was too hung up on Jackson, but this was definitely the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
+infinity. A lot of these folks don't remember the days before every game was televised and we had to listen to games on the radio and hear Jack call the games. Jack's voice was the soundtrack of my fall saturdays growing up. I miss hearing his voice. Seems like everything was right with the world hearing Jack call our games(even when we sucked). I'm getting old.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstatelp1
Back then the stadium in Jackson was bigger (even before it was expanded), nicer, and had lights. If you weren't going to MSU games prior to 1986 you really have no concept of how bad our stadium was. It was a little over 30k and did not have lights. It was a complete dump, even by the standards of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Yeah I'm thankful JWS brought games back to campus.Quote:
Originally Posted by msudawg1200
Combine that with never forcing the issue on how our schedule was stacked against us year in and year out. Most years 5 of our 6 SEC games were OM, LSU, Bama, Auburn, and Florida. Meanwhile Ole Miss gets to play Tulane and Vandy every year and spent the better part of 3 decades dodging Bama, Auburn, GA, and FL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Jack was awesome in basketball. "It's string music in Lexington, John"!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Great watching 3 of my childhood friends,Bill Bell, Roman Grace and Bobby M, playing together/ I know Fred C and Bill Bell attend home games together with other members of that team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Great memories! I remember this game well!Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Rep given cuz I'm shamed for forgetting that game. Gracias Senior; I enjoyed the hell outta dat.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
Agree Todd. I was a little pissed at how they did us. The show was about play by play guys and our segment about Jack not MSU football domination. We got some decent air time but should have got more. Jack is one of the best to ever call in SEC and college football. MSU may not have NC in football but we had a dynasty in Jack Cristil and the segment should have been all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Where was the 99 kick, pick, kick call? Where was the 98 winning West call?
Jack's voice was MSU football to me as a kid. The images of the boy listening to the radio and his voice was so many kids in Miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
The young pups don't realize what all Jackie did for MSU football. That is why he is the Kang.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Yes Mullen did some good things too but Mullen do accomplish what he did without Jackie doing what he did.
Amen. I will always love what The Kang did for us, he stood up for us and showed us we could punch back and win! Can't forget Mrs. Peggy either, she loves MSU and and pulls for us in everything. Will never forget her contributions either.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
I agree with you 100% -Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
However, I wonder if Jackie was with us currently, how long would he have lasted? A whole lot of people on this board who love Jackie tend to ignore 3-6-2 in '93 and 3-8 in '95 and regular WTF losses to Memphis, terrible LSU teams, Louisiana-Monroe, & La Tech. I'm not sure Jackie could survive past '95 today - people are way too impatient.
Maybe so. Sign of the times we live partly, signs of recent MSU success too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
If you remember correctly, JWS was in trouble in 96 with rumors he would be fired but then 96 Bama happened and the rest is great MSU history from 96-2001.
I agree, we've become to much of an instant gratifcation society.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
I remember quite well, and the leading candidate for his replacement was Bobby Wallace at UNA.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
This is also a reminder of our home games being played in Jackson rather that Starkville, and should make everyone of us sick.
Bobby Dodd refused to play any games in Mississippi anywhere and bear Bryant refused to play in Starkville. Don't remember if there were others.