Almost our entire issue is OL.

OL allowed way too much pressure pretty much the entire game. Couldn?t block 3 with 5. Didn?t diagnose a single twist, blitz, etc. First run of the game, blitzing MLB gets a tackle for a loss. Next play, holding. Way to kill a drive #69.

Now, with us not running, everyone just pins their ears back.

We never throw the ball down field.

Add to our punter averaging something like 35 yards and missed FGs.

We just have plenty to to learn from this dumpster fire.

On the flip side, our DL got less than zero pressure. I think we actually fostered a sense of security for their QB.

We had like 5 offsides called on our Defense. How the hell does that happen?

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

OL allowed way too much pressure pretty much the entire game. Couldn?t block 3 with 5. Didn?t diagnose a single twist, blitz, etc. First run of the game, blitzing MLB gets a tackle for a loss. Next play, holding. Way to kill a drive fatass #69 RG.

Now, with us not running, everyone just pins their ears back.

We never throw the ball down field.

Add to our punter averaging something like 35 yards and missed FGs.

We just have plenty to to learn from this dumpster fire.

On the flip side, our DL got less than zero pressure. I think we actually fostered a sense of security for their QB.

We had like 5 offsides called on our Defense. How the hell does that happen?

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I agree our OL is our main issue, but does calling a 19 year old kid names make you feel like a man? Does that help make him better?

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I agree our OL is our main issue, but does calling a 19 year old kid names make you feel like a man? Does that help make him better?

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Yea, I get ticked off as bad as the next guy but try to avoid that. Cross and lashley showed better footwork and brains in the 4th thankfully.

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

OL allowed way too much pressure pretty much the entire game. Couldn?t block 3 with 5. Didn?t diagnose a single twist, blitz, etc. First run of the game, blitzing MLB gets a tackle for a loss. Next play, holding. Way to kill a drive fatass #69 RG.

Now, with us not running, everyone just pins their ears back.

We never throw the ball down field.

Add to our punter averaging something like 35 yards and missed FGs.

We just have plenty to to learn from this dumpster fire.

On the flip side, our DL got less than zero pressure. I think we actually fostered a sense of security for their QB.

We had like 5 offsides called on our Defense. How the hell does that happen?

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So our entire issue is OL and then you named 4 other issues.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

So our entire issue is OL and then you named 4 other issues.

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You're exposing your own ignorance about football. Everyone knows if your OL blocks good, your DL won't jump offsides. And they'll get to the opposing QB more. And of course analytics have long shown the relation between OL play and... um... how good your punter is.

Educate yourself before posting!!!!

Day averaged 42 yards a punt, not 35.

Go ahead and jump... I'm guessing you never played the game and certainly no on the o-line... and the only kick we missed was from 52 yards out and then he kicked it on the laces ... holder never even made an attempt to turn the ball

The issue is Dolla Bill. If you look at Matt Wyatt's film study, Dolla Bill not passing off his guy and coming back to the stunt cost us on multiple occasions.

On the whole, I didn't see our OL get whipped by La Tech. They out techniqued us and got us on some stunts. If we can get more consistent there I think we will be better.

What I did like seeing was good WR blocking, RBs doing a good job both running and determining whether to block or be available out of the backfield, and Rogers being accurate. Get the OL on board more consistently and we win a fair number of games this year.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

I agree our OL is our main issue, but does calling a 19 year old kid names make you feel like a man? Does that help make him better?

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Fair point. Edited to just say #69.

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

The issue is Dolla Bill. If you look at Matt Wyatt's film study, Dolla Bill not passing off his guy and coming back to the stunt cost us on multiple occasions.

On the whole, I didn't see our OL get whipped by La Tech. They out techniqued us and got us on some stunts. If we can get more consistent there I think we will be better.

What I did like seeing was good WR blocking, RBs doing a good job both running and determining whether to block or be available out of the backfield, and Rogers being accurate. Get the OL on board more consistently and we win a fair number of games this year.

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Problem with Wyatt's film review was he only chose plays where we blocked the wrong guys. He didn't show the numerous plays where everyone blocked the right guy but got their tail whipped

Actually, I did play oline. Just because our Oline is our main issue, that doesn?t mean we did screw the pooch in other areas.

If they get pressure constantly with 3 down linemen and one blitzer, it doesn?t matter what we do.

The contributing answer would be to get to 35% called run plays. If the defense has to play the run, 4 out of 10 plays, their DL wouldn?t be sitting dead red every single play.

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Problem with Wyatt's film review was he only chose plays where we blocked the wrong guys. He didn't show the numerous plays where everyone blocked the right guy but got their tail whipped

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Yep it's the same way the media spin a narrative; its not that a news company LIES per se, it's that if they have 5 stories that support theor side and 5 that oppose it, they'll cover the 5 they want and maybe 1-2 of the ones they don't so they can say they're being fair.

Well, Matt is a State guy that has to be a little bit of a Sunshine Pumper or he risks his insider access to the program. His bias isn't through LYING, but through selecting what plays he covers

While we had some issues team wide I think you would about have to be a little simple not to realize that the most troubled position is OL

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While we had some issues team wide I think you would about have to be a little simple not to realize that the most troubled position is OL

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There are things that can be done to help the o-line... it's easier to run block than to pass block ... especially when the entire world knows a pass is coming ... this isn't all on the line... Leach could help his line out instead of throwing them under the bus the way he did

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

Fair point. Edited to just say #69.

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Yeah, but a 19 yr old is not exactly a "kid". 19-yr olds dodge bullets in foreign countries. 5 of the military personnel killed in Afghanistan were barely 20.

Why do so many of our highly-rated offensive linemen underperform? I want our 4 & 5-star o-linemen to play like 4 & 5-star o-linemen. I hope Leach is swinging his sword at Mason Miller this week. That guy is not getting through to his group.

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There are things that can be done to help the o-line... it's easier to run block than to pass block ... especially when the entire world knows a pass is coming ... this isn't all on the line... Leach could help his line out instead of throwing them under the bus the way he did

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No doubt. Maybe stop holding. With that said if they weren?t holding several times there our QB would have been destroyed.

Now we get to go watch Ole Miss play without a coach. Wonder how that is going to go?

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There are things that can be done to help the o-line... it's easier to run block than to pass block ... especially when the entire world knows a pass is coming ... this isn't all on the line... Leach could help his line out instead of throwing them under the bus the way he did

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Two things needs to happen, first we need some quick sweeps, counters and such to keep the box honest. Second, for God?s sake, call a play and get the snap off when we are coming off a completion. Due what Ole Miss does and get the line quick and get another play off before the D can get adjusted.

It doesn?t even need to be all the time, but we need to keep the LBs and DL thinking. Right now, life is way to easy for each.

Main thing is we need to recruit SEC level players. But stars don?t matter at State. Because the score doesn?t matter either I guess.

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Originally Posted by FISHDAWG

There are things that can be done to help the o-line... it's easier to run block than to pass block ... especially when the entire world knows a pass is coming ... this isn't all on the line... Leach could help his line out instead of throwing them under the bus the way he did

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There is a difference between a progression read pass play and an alignment read pass play. If a team is primarily a primary progression pass offense the quarterback’s decision and release is delayed due to progression evaluation. This means more time is needed for pass protection. Usually the receivers are scheme participants first and players second in progression read passing. In alignment read passing game, the quarterback has made an evaluation before the ball is snapped. The receiver has to defeat his defender and get his position to win the pass. This means that the pass protection does not need to be long lived for that play because the quarterback releases the ball quicker.

There is a difference between a pass game scheme and a passing attack. The scheme is part of the attack and not the complete attack. It has been talked about some of Leach’s associates not running the Air Raid as pure as years ago. An Air Raid purest calls this bastardizing the scheme. The purest are being weeded out and the deviants are maintaining their coaching careers.

Rogers held on to the ball when receivers were getting open. This means that the scheme distracted him from finding them. If he was in alignment read mode, the open receiver would be seen and responded to. Instead the play is extended and the offensive line gets grief.

I noticed that Rogers had some success on some up the field plays when the receiver just won the ball in close coverage? Simply, if the quarterback holds the ball in progression read, the offensive line play suffers. That is why progression read passing is becoming less prevalent from high school to the NFL, it is about receivers taking over the passing game from the schemes of the past. A scheme is drawn up to start a play, a matchup win, by the receiver, is the end game in most cases.

As bad as La Tech was, they were in better position on our passing plays than Louisville is tonight. Now, that may mean they knew our WR patterns, could mean our receivers suck at route running or may mean Corral knows who is going to be open tonight based on alignment and Rogers could not read where the open guy was going to be more than 8 yards down field.

On the other hand I don?t think another QB completed 39 passes this weekend.

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Leach could help his line out instead of throwing them under the bus the way he did

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I guess you would rather him blame their fat, little girlfriends?

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I guess you would rather him blame their fat, little girlfriends?

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I would rather him own his own crap and point the finger at himself - where it belongs. I know the o-line could play better but he isn't making it any easier for them trying to run this air-raid offense that the best college coaches in history won't even try to run