Largest one by any athlete we have....$3600 .....
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Largest one by any athlete we have....$3600 .....
This rule could send us straight to the bottom of sec football
We're not going to even try.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Good for the athletes, bad for college football (and most college sports).
Doesn't seem like itQuote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I laugh at these comments. Why don't you pony up then?? Easy to spend everyone else's money isn't it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
We can't even paint our end zones, so why does anyone think we'd invest in the football program?
See comment aboveQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Lol, ok. Don't be a glib douche. I forgot that prior to the NIL rule, the backbone of college recruiting was built on the backs of lowly college professors, lol. Why shouldn't it be the same now?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Meanwhile, schools that take this shit seriously, even smaller schools without winning traditions (like an OM, for example), are about to wax our ass...
But cool story, bro.
Just wondering what was stopping you. Since everyone else is so cheap. You can do one yourself. Have at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Should have known you were a prof....
And, btw....I/we (my wife is also a MSU graduate) donate our fair share to the university....and we don't even get to reap the immediate rewards of such generosity by getting season tickets and whatnot....because we live in ****ing Massachusetts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I guess I should quit my university job and start a lobster roll truck and sponsor the next great MSU place kicker?
https://media4.giphy.com/media/pyYFG...nE7z/giphy.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Lol, sad but true.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I'll be honest. When the NIL passed, and all the threads saying we were doomed, I scoffed....Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
If this is how unserious we are about it, I was obviously way wrong. It's the equivalent of forfeiting before the race even starts if this is how we're going about this.
There is still time, but they better get their shit together. Considering how much Starkville has grown, how much advertisement potential there is, re: restaurants, bars/clubs, etc...there has to be more there...
Honestly, from a football perspective only what kind of roi would a business get from using one of our current players?? Dak would have done well but we don't have a dak. I never thought this was a good idea for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
That's a fair point. But it's all relative. Obviously we're not going to compete with a Bama, Georgia, OSU, Texas, etc. in this NIL deal. But we weren't with the previous system either. So what's changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
What we have to do, is compete with the other fish our size in the pond (e.g., OM, Ark, SC, KY, etc.). I guarantee you OM is already 10 steps ahead of us in this game, for a number of reasons. The fact we have never really taken recruiting seriously, however, will likely prove to be a symptomatic to why we don't succeed in this new system. Its up to the schools to go out and facilitate these relationships. They can do it any number of ways. Tax write offs. Perks. Box seats. Booster access. Etc.
What's depressing, though, is we have the potential to succeed in this system...but we still have too much "ole mississippi state" in us, and we refuse to change with the times.
who got that one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I missed where we were at the top of the SEC already. I mean, we've literally been at the bottom with Arkansas and OM since like, forever.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'm guessing things shake out about the way they are now. We'll be a 6-8 sometimes 9 win team every year. We won't be terrible but won't be elite either.
We've been pretty competitive with most schools in the SEC. If we don't step up, you are going to have a new perspective on what the bottom really is.Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
How dare you leave out VandyQuote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
College Football is definitely rigged against us. That's why a coach like Napier wouldn't want to come here. We have to overcome so much just to hit 8-9 wins and that gets us nothing but 3rd-4th in our own division. And then a meaningless bowl trip. I'm a nihilst when it comes to MSU football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I get this mentality, but it doesn't have to be like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
If we tried....just tried!....a little bit more...just a little...we could absolutely move up a peg or two. Taking what scraps are given to you and accepting the status quo is such a Larry Templeton move. Hell, for MSU it goes decades before him. How many years did we sell our home games to play in Jackson instead? How many decades did we accept having to play Bama, Georgia, LSU, while OM campaigned to have their schedule as lean as possible? Considering how old our football program is, and the fact we really only started giving a **** since the 1990's, it's a wonder we've accomplished what we have in such a short time, lol.
That, I do not know. We have 100 deals. Ranging from 3.50 yes three dollars and 50 cents to 3600.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We have a head coach who doesn't want to recruit. We have a staff made up of a lot of people with no ties to the Deep South. We signed an average class last year and we are looking pretty average this year. We don't play the game very well. And so far we aren't participating in the NIL game. Things are not trending in a positive direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Just being realistic, we could do everything perfectly and we still aren't playing for anything but a bowl game. Hopefully, the playoffs will expand to at least 12 sooner than later to give us some faint hope. But we definitely need some leadership and a plan.
Good Grief!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
All true, and I hear ya, but a school's "network" can still exist beyond all that. We've just never prioritized it. It better change, though, because the tide is coming in...Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
What are you talking about. I literally just saw a video of them painting a Hail State in one of the end zonesQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
You're always so positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I was pretty dang positive during baseball season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish
Football starts Saturday. We're undefeated. Give it a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We aren't really talking about this season in particular. But if there is something I posted that you disagree with or care to debate, please feel free to post. Otherwise keep the snide comments to yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catfish
Your post refers to this season. Maybe you should go back and read it. And keep your snide comments to yourself!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Such as ridiculing someone for their career choice, lol?**Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
JK, I'm thick skinned.
Wasn't me bud. I will only ridicule you for bad takes. As for Catfish, he has made 3 posts in this thread and managed to add absolutely nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
OHSt defeats Minnesota for the 46th time in 53 games. OHSt has won 12 in a row and 28 of last 29 v Minnesota. College football needs a reorganization anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And you are blasting a football program that has yet to play a game this year. There's half empty and half full. You should try the half full for awhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Lol, whoops. Y'all's names are too close for my eyes to differentiate at this point in the evening. Apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Is that why you still administer scantron tests????***Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
To the topic - This NIL won't make much of a difference. Ole Miss has always outspent us, and they have dick to show for it. As long as we play in the premier conference, we'll be good (or should I say - average).
I could see Arkansas, UK, Ole Miss, Tenn, all moving ahead of us. Once UT and OU joing the conference, we could find ourselves in the 14-15 range in the conference ahead of only Vandy and maybe Mizzou. We sort of had our glory years under Mullen. We better step it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh