Unless we get beat 45-0 on Thanksgiving- Mullen back for 2014.
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Unless we get beat 45-0 on Thanksgiving- Mullen back for 2014.
Well, even more reason to pull for history to be made this weekend.
That makes no sense at all. If we lose by 28+ to Bama, lose to Arkansas even by 1 point, and lose to Ole Miss by 14 at home, how do you bring him back? Especially the way he handles his staff and recruits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Hoops, none of that will happen. Well, after Bama anyway.
It was told to me the Admin is happy overall with the football program, knows the team was young in spots this year, had some key injuries, and feels like Mullen will have them back in a good bowl next season.
This same info was given to me, but it was about 3 weeks ago. I think a lot of people's feelings are starting to change. If we lose our last 3, we will make a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
5-13 at MSU = "good enough" "happy" etc...
Where were we "young"?
Sounds to me like we would keep him either way. Not saying you are lying, but if we lost the next 3 and played uninspired in the egg bowl , no matter what the score, the admin would have a difficult time fighting off the non admin decision makers.
Just relaying the message
that's fine, it's just a dated message. if we lose our last 3, he is gone and he knows he should be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Well, the admin needs to go out and hire Mullen an equivalent offensive counterpart to run the offense. the way I see it, I don't see any of the offensive coaches contributing/challenging Mullen in planning/meetings, etc. If they were, then Perkins wouldn't be carrying the ball as often.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
So our Admin is admitting that they're cool with mediocre.
That sucks. Hopefully he will at least fire himself as Special Teams coach and maybe hire an OC to help delegate some duties too. Keep Les as QB coach if you want too, but hire a young mind that can take some of the offensive responsibilities.
If this is true, it's disappointing to know that we could lose out by 30 points per game and our Admin will already have made up their mind. (For some reason I am not 100% buying it though)
The media and everybody close to the program have been saying this for weeks. They said no matter what happened the rest of the year, Mullen was coming back. It lead me to believe that Stricklan told them off the record. Never seen a guy on the hotseat where everyone said he was not gonna be fired.
nothing dated about it- this was a conversation at the Hump about 2 hours agoQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
2009 - Installing zone read, end strong with egg bowl win, Ralf emerges
2010 - Ralf has solid year, 9 wins, finish 9-4
2011 - Ralf gets hurt at Auburn, zone read being run by pocket passer, tried to adjust offense midseason, mistake #1, finish 7-6
2012 - Installed Tyler offense, start 7-0, finish 1-5. Defense porous, offense not smooth, Tyler hangs on to the ball. finish 8-5
2013 - Continue Tyler offense, Tyler gets hurt in game 1, zone read QB Dak comes in having not practiced all spring, tried to adjust offense midseason, same problem as 2011.
The continuing theme here is that Dan needs a dual threat QB to run his offense. He tried to adjust for Tyler like he did Alex Smith. The only problem is Alex Smith can run, Tyler cannot. As coach said, he looks like a wounded giraffe trying to run.
We have Damien, a dual threat QB, and two more coming in Fitz and Staley. Dan has seen the light. I expect he will be back regardless.
It's better for the program if no one thinks Mullen is on the hotseat. You don't want that to become a daily topic. If Mullen loses the lockeroom, we will lose to Arkansas. And then there's no way we are beating Ole Miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by bully99
If I'm Stricklin, I say the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
This makes me believe there is not nearly enough for the buyout. Which makes me believe there is not enough donors, specifically big donors, who are ready for a change. Either that or Scott Stricklin is coontrairian enough to bet his entire career on Mullen.
Hard to say. Could be legit. Could be the dreaded Vote of Confidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by bully99
I would not expect ANY other message at this stage. An administration is ALWAYS going to back the current coach until they don't. Mullen has every chance to end well enough to not only have the administration's support going into next year but also a large percentage of the fanbase. An administration would give NO other message other than what C34 is hearing unless everything was a lost cause which obviously this isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Not surprising. Firing Mullen after a down year wouldn't exactly make Starkville an appealing place for a coach to come.
This was not a "partyline" conversation...this was a "we're not ****ing firing him" conversationQuote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
We may not fire him regardless but if we go 4-8 this year after the way we finished last year and don't make a change its going to be a rough year to open up a new, enlarged stadium. To be honest if we aren't going to bring in Hud I'd rather not make a change right now anyway. Most anybody else we could bring in would just be an experiment both in how they would perform as a HC and in how they could recruit MS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Boy isn't this the truth. Tyler with a lone back Perkins equals waste of everyone's time. How Dan refuses to see this is beyond me.Quote:
Originally Posted by justwin
That's not what I heard from my 2nd hand source. Mine told me we have to beat Ole Miss 45-0Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Right. New stadium, new uniforms, new coach if that Coach is Hud, and a new start. Hud would have a nice foundation, great schedule, and a heck of a QB for his offense in Dak. And we would only be in danger of losing 1 or 2 recruits at the most. I really doubt we would lose any.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
If we bring Mullen back, he will do fine next year. And then the mindless sheep will say "thank goodness we didn't fire mullen". But we will have missed our chance on Hud and our trajectory will be flat to down.
My disclaimer is that all of this is based on us finishing 0-3 which I would say is about a 50/50 proposition.
Hud is not an option at this point. All signs are pointing to him headed somewhere already- thats what led to the "we're not ****ing firing him" response...lol
Where?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Nobody seems to have the answer yet- just speculationQuote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
We can get him. There is not a better job out there for Hud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Dude. Good Lord. You want this too bad. Get off the computer, go out and get a taco or something and some fresh air. Dan Mullen is gonna be our coach next year no matter how many times you freaking type it on this message board. It's obvious you despise his ass but you ain't helping shit with concern to our football program with all this BS. At some point you need to realize this.
If the rumors about Sumlin leaving are true, there could be dominos falling all over the place. Who knows what will open up. Hud may just keep his powder dry and wait and see what develops. We can't wait like that. If we don't have him locked up by Thanksgiving, we will probably not make a move this year. Thanksgiving is two weeks from today.
I don't see Sumlin leaving A&M. They can pay him whatever he wants. Hud would take the MSU job if offered. Hud needs to remain in the south. There will be no SEC jobs to take nor any other jobs that offer what MSU can offer Hud. I think we've got a real chance to upgrade here, I hope our administration has the foresight and the fortitude to make the move if necessary. I still hope Mullen can get it together and pull off the Egg Bowl upset, but I really don't see it happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterDawg
Just so you'll know, we won't have him locked up by Thanksgiving, and we won't make a move this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by HunterDawg
This Hud obsession will come and go, and we'lll play another football season with Mullen next year. That will be the year where Mullen's fate is decided.
Speculation on top of speculation...
I'm not getting into this debate anymore -- but there hasn't been a damn thing "already decided" midseason...
And if it has, the whole Bryan Building needs to be fired.
There are rumors that So Cal is going after Sumlin. If JFF is leaving, I can see Sumlin taking that job. Whoever A&M hires will have to be replaced and lots of coaches will be moving around before long. What happens with Muschamp? Spurrier retiring? Could be a busy winter.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Would you actually expect anything else coming from inside the ath dept? Nobody in the ath dept is going to come out and say "yeah, his ass is out" with games left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Probably not a bad idea regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluelightstar
Well, sounds like it has- and they're notQuote:
Originally Posted by bluelightstar