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And starting Fristoe?
Lord no. Did you see how fast he waddled out there to get the ball from him the last time he pitched? Fristoe is lucky he's allowed in the dugout after all those walks. I'd be stunned if we see Fristoe tomorrow. Wouldn't be surprised to see something crazy like Stinnett or somebody start, go an inning or two, then Hooty, then Sims though. Keep them completely off balance with speeds and arm slots.
In my opinion, you have to think it's feasible to get a complete game out of Hooty and Sims...so if you don't start Harding, start Sims. Then if you need one inning I guess you go Stinnett to close
I doubt it. Harding has had some good starts. He beat a good Texas Tech in Biloxi and USM team as a starter while he has been at MSU. I know he has a bad start against Mizzou but he should get another chance.
I think he might use Simmons to close.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Say what you will about Lemonis, but he's last guy who manages on "hunches"
I have a hunch you use an iphone and haven't read the idiot's guide to posting***
No, that won’t happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
He'll start Hootie and use Sims however he needs to use him. If it's early, then we'll get a big dose of we're 17'd the rest of the way.
When are we going to stop acting like Lemon is not a good coach?
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Originally Posted by chef dixon
When he is coaching somewhere else. That's the MSU way.
I believe you go with what worked last Monday. Start Houston. Johnson, Stinnett and Sims. If things go south early bring in Sims early.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I have to believe you send the message to the Team that this worked last Monday. It works today.
When one or more aspects of the team improved over the course of a baseball seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
You just keep looking for random statistics and perfection and never be satisfied. I'll be satisfied with wins, and be dang proud of having a team competing to go to Omaha AGAIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
When his teams can be fundamentally sound. There's no excuse for all of his teams to suck defensively. Starters need another pitch. Develop some guys! Teach them something they didn't come here with. They've regressed this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by chef dixon
And for god's sake, get off the bucket and go get your players backs when the umpiring is so horrendous they can't even get a pop up 10 feet fair right.
Coot, u make it sound like we aren’t even playing for a CWS spot. I know u and all of us want to win, but there aren’t many “Billy Martin” Coaches. Lemonis is done a fine job, if not explain what we suck so bad IYO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
You very seldom give credit but harp on “oh we aren’t worthy”.
There's a few options but imo here are the best two:
Option A (What I Would Do)- Start Landon and try to get 75-90 pitches from him and then go to Hootie, Simmons, Stinnett, Johnson, whoever we got left and hold on for dear life.
Option B (What We'll Probably Do)- Start Hootie and try to get 75-90 pitches from him and you go to Landon at the first sign of trouble.
Wild Card- Start Simmons or Stinnett and have Hootie hot in the bullpen ready to go at the first sign of trouble.
I lean towards starting Landon because his ability to get them out and throw strikes. We need to put up some zeros early.
I think we go Harding, Stinnett, Simmons, Johnson, Sims today. That should get us thru 9.
We gonna have to score 6-7 runs to win it I believe. Our day at the plate likely decides if we move on or not
It is different in todays game since there is a rule that getting kicked out of a game suspends you for the next game. Not many managers would go and kick dirt on the umpires feet if it meant not coaching the next game. Lemonis occasionally pushes it but Foxhall getting kicked out earlier this year caused him to not be able to call pitches in the next game.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
As terrible as these umps are - the more we rode them the worse they got. If Lemonis had started really arguing they would have run him. And it wouldn't change a damn thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Not only that. Ur the ones thinking or saying Lemonis is soft doesn’t have a damn clue. He doesn’t throw players under the bus during games nor at press conferences. He is tough as nails on them away from the cameras and spot light.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
If some knew things I knew about what is going on they wouldn’t be so negative.
Hell Lemonis is perfect but neither are Van Horn and others. Talk about poor decisions, it showed big time yesterday when Kopps right out of juice. But kudos to Kopps, without him Ark wouldn’t have been near as good.
Yeah, Lemonis ain't soft. That I agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I don't mind a coach getting tossed in a 9-1 game. He wasn't really doing much at that point. You think Cohen would sit on his hands? Hell no!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Base, Lemonis is a good coach. I'm not saying he's not. I'm just saying we're seeing things that he needs to fix. This is only year 2 in the SEC for him. I think some things he's still got to figure out. I'm not saying fire the guy. But a blind, deaf goat can get us to post season. We need more than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
I would've preferred to not have our HC be suspended for Game 3 with the season on the line. But hey, that's just me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I wouldn't use Simmons to close unless we have a large lead. Don't trust him that much.
In his last start in the regional, Harding pitched for 5 innings, 10 strikeouts, 2 walks, and 2 ER. Before that at Bama he pitched 5.2 innings, giving up 2 hits and 0 ER.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I'm pretty sure the manager doesn't also miss the next game. Any other player or coach does get an additional game suspension, but not the manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
And if he got tossed, he's not around today. It's counter productive at this time of year to get yourself thrown out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I don't think that's right. Everything I've found says the head coach just misses the rest of that game but any assistant, player, or other personnel will also be suspended an additional game.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Maybe the tournament is different. I'm unaware that it is, but I was just assuming that ejection rules are blanket across all conferences.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Coot, actually u have good points! But like u say it’s only his third year. He is smart and well spoken, he will have a different team next year, hopefully we get infielders and a few pitchers step up big time as far as our Sec rotation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
ND may smoke us today but IMO Harding has been our beat pitcher other than Sims the last few weeks. We just can’t walk batters and it’s a must playing flawless defense today.
Only thing I wish was starting time today. I was hoping for 1 or 2 game time. Crowd should be electric today!
I ain’t mad ain’t this team, we have some issues and again have over achieved big time as I never thought we would be playing for a chance to go to CWS.
Where have you seen that the manager gets an additional game suspension?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I remember when Cohen got tossed in 2016 out in LA he had to sit for the Sunday game against Oklahoma. That's the last time I can remember a manager getting tossed for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Hmmm. What I'm seeing is that the manager just has to sit out the rest of the game in which he was ejected, but that if he continues to argue and receives a misconduct after the ejection, he can be further suspended. I don't know, maybe what I'm seeing is wrong or maybe they've changed it since 2016. But it seems the manager can be ejected and come back the next game.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yeah, I'm a little brash and abrasive in my comments. But I'm just of the opinion you can't win big with bad defense. That's really my only knock with him at this point. And like I said, maybe that changes with his players coming in and taking over. The inconsistencies this year have worn on me I think. Maybe expectations were too high. I thought the pitching staff would get us top 4 and with luck, we'd have a shot at top 2. Got to win today to get there.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Well this did happen because he got tossed and then kept arguing and then Gavin Collins got tossed which made him even angrier.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
It don't matter who we start if we don't hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
This is probably a bigger concern to me. We've got to hit better and have patience at the plate. We let their staff off the hook last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
True. And we never know when we will. Our patience at the plate and ability to read the pitch & adjust seems to have fallen off end of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave