Can we win the SEC?

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After 21 games, the SEC teams break down into 3 tiers:

• The top 6 are contending for the SEC crown. We have the easiest remaining schedule (by W/L record at least). We'll have to gain a game on Arkansas to get a tie, without letting another team gain on us, and Arkansas has a significantly harder schedule than us. If Arkansas loses games to Tennessee or Florida, that helps us, but it would also help teams competing with us for the title.
• There's also a middle tier of teams fighting for an NCAA bid. All 4 of them have at least 2 series left against teams in the top tier, so they'll have the chance to clinch a bid with some good wins, or they could find themselves out of the mix.
• On the bottom tier, I wouldn't count out LSU yet. Their RPI is good enough that going 6-3 to get to 13-17 probably gets them in. Auburn has a very weak schedule and could actually get themselves onto the bubble with a strong finish.

Yes, we absolutely can win the SEC.

This upcoming weekend will be a huge hurdle and if we do well we may control our own destiny

I don't see us winning the SEC. Arkansas is tough, and like you said we have to be a game ahead of them since they have the tiebreaker. And I'm ok with us not winning the SEC. I just want us hot going into the postseason. If we win 2 of 3 at USCe this weekend I may change my tune, but I don't see that happening

It’s conceivable we could go 8-1 in the remaining SEC. We could also go 4-5. Arkansas has a tougher schedule than we do. We will see how it plays out.

Someone correct me if I?m wrong, but I?m thinking there is no tiebreaker. Teams with the same record share the crown.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I don't see us winning the SEC. Arkansas is tough, and like you said we have to be a game ahead of them since they have the tiebreaker. And I'm ok with us not winning the SEC. I just want us hot going into the postseason. If we win 2 of 3 at USCe this weekend I may change my tune, but I don't see that happening

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Dont care. It's about being a national seed.

19 wins pretty much guarantees one. If we can get to 21 we would likely assure a top 5 seed.

Head to head only matters in seeding for the SEC tournament. If two teams have the same record, they are co-champs regardless of H2H.

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Dont care. It's about being a national seed.

19 wins pretty much guarantees one. If we can get to 21 we would likely assure a top 5 seed.

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This. It would be nice to put another number on the outfield wall, but in the grand scheme of things, all that matters is hosting all the way to Omaha.

Unrelated, but South Carolina has an all time winning record against us in baseball. By 3 games. Would love a sweep to get us to even.

Nice work though Quaoarsking. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out

"Well, I guess there is only one thing we can do. Win. The whole. 17'n. Thing."

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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg

"Well, I guess there is only one thing we can do. Win. The whole. 17'n. Thing."

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Yep, this! Have a good shot at it. I'm confident we get to 20 conference wins and that should make us a solid national seed. 21-22 wins could give us the sec crown and a top 5 seed

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Dont care. It's about being a national seed.

19 wins pretty much guarantees one. If we can get to 21 we would likely assure a top 5 seed.

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Why does an sec championship in baseball mean so little to you as compared to football? Pretty big accomplishment to me and should celebrated accordingly, especially coming through the west. Might as well bring home some hardware on the way to a national seed.

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

Why does an sec championship in baseball mean so little to you as compared to football? Pretty big accomplishment to me and should celebrated accordingly, especially coming through the west. Might as well bring home some hardware on the way to a national seed.

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An SEC Championship in football means you get the chance to play for the National Championship. In baseball it's not the same level of importance. In our conference tournament I often hope we lose to save pitching/injury risk for the regional the following weekend.

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Originally Posted by Rex54

An SEC Championship in football means you get the chance to play for the National Championship. In baseball it's not the same level of importance. In our conference tournament I often hope we lose to save pitching/injury risk for the regional the following weekend.

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No one mentioned the tournament. Screw the tourney. I'll still celebrate a title and it should be a big deal to get you on the road to Omaha. And winning the title in football only gets you in the playoff. Got to win one there to play for the title. Just because baseball has a longer road doesn't mean a title should be celebrated less IMO.

The SEC Tournament is a cash grab and pretty pointless.

We'll know a lot more about our odds of winning the SEC after the South Carolina series. Statistically they have the 13th best offense in the league. Their pitching is second in ERA however. On paper this should be a series with low scoring games and the fact that we can steal bases may prove to be valuable in this series. Defensively we can not afford to shoot ourselves in the foot and we'll see if our new lineup helps with that. Mizzou is a team we should sweep at home. Alabama is a good team that will play us tough especially on the road.

Arkansas is due a bad weekend and they have a tough enough schedule that they certainly could lose a series. Even though Vanderbilt has the two best starters in the SEC they are prone to losing Sundays and Rocker and Leiter have split games at times this year.

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

Why does an sec championship in baseball mean so little to you as compared to football? Pretty big accomplishment to me and should celebrated accordingly, especially coming through the west. Might as well bring home some hardware on the way to a national seed.

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Because in football the goal is to win the SEC title to have a chance to win the NC. You basically have to win the SEC title to have a chance to win the NC

In basketball and baseball- it’s about making the Tourney and getting seeding. We won the SEC in basketball in 2004 and then got beat by Butler in the NCAA Tourney and it just made the season very meh. Basketball and Baseball are Tourney-based. Football is regular season based

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

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After 21 games, the SEC teams break down into 3 tiers:

• The top 6 are contending for the SEC crown. We have the easiest remaining schedule (by W/L record at least). We'll have to gain a game on Arkansas to get a tie, without letting another team gain on us, and Arkansas has a significantly harder schedule than us. If Arkansas loses games to Tennessee or Florida, that helps us, but it would also help teams competing with us for the title.
• There's also a middle tier of teams fighting for an NCAA bid. All 4 of them have at least 2 series left against teams in the top tier, so they'll have the chance to clinch a bid with some good wins, or they could find themselves out of the mix.
• On the bottom tier, I wouldn't count out LSU yet. Their RPI is good enough that going 6-3 to get to 13-17 probably gets them in. Auburn has a very weak schedule and could actually get themselves onto the bubble with a strong finish.

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Why were they announcing on SEC Now that Arky has won at least a share of the SEC Title? Or were they talking about other sports.

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Why were they announcing on SEC Now that Arky has won at least a share of the SEC Title? Or were they talking about other sports.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I don't see us winning the SEC. Arkansas is tough,... If we win 2 of 3 at USCe this weekend I may change my tune, but I don't see that happening

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So, you already bought in to losing 2 of 3 at USCe, who just got swept by OM?

The Hogs still have Georgia, at UT, and Florida, left on their schedule while MSU has @ USCe (11-10), Missouri (5-16), and @Bama (11-10)!

I see a tie for SEC Crown at least and outright win as doable.

BWI, I think a tie with ARK or VANDY goes down as Co-Champions BUT they would have #1 seed at SECT. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, because it may be just basketball that is that way)

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Originally Posted by BiscuitEater

So, you already bought in to losing 2 of 3 at USCe, who just got swept by OM?


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Yeah, because Ole Miss swept them at home, we are playing them at their place after they've just been swept. Road series in this league are tough. I'm not even penciling in 2 wins at Bama in a few weeks, bc they aren't that bad and it's on the road. Ole Miss sweeping them at Swayze has no bearing on how we'll perform at their place

If I had to predict it out to the end, I think we end up tied for first. Possibly with three other teams.

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Originally Posted by BiscuitEater

So, you already bought in to losing 2 of 3 at USCe, who just got swept by OM?

The Hogs still have Georgia, at UT, and Florida, left on their schedule while MSU has @ USCe (11-10), Missouri (5-16), and @Bama (11-10)!

I see a tie for SEC Crown at least and outright win as doable.

BWI, I think a tie with ARK or VANDY goes down as Co-Champions BUT they would have #1 seed at SECT. (Please correct me if I'm wrong, because it may be just basketball that is that way)

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Anything can happen in baseball. OM lost 2-3 and almost got swept the week before by LSU at home. The better teams will drop a series or two when the weaker team just has a better weekend.

Our schedule isn?t as easy as it looks. USCe is a solid team that had a bad weekend in Oxford. Alabama is much improved from how they have been over the last few years and we play them away. If we don?t sweep Missouri that will be very disappointing. I think we still win the Bama series but I think winning more than 1 in Columbia will be extremely challenging

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Why were they announcing on SEC Now that Arky has won at least a share of the SEC Title? Or were they talking about other sports.

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Maybe talking about softball? Not sure. Arkansas still needs to win one more game in softball for that so it's wrong either way.

One win in the Arkansas series would look good now, gives Dawgs one more and them one less. That is why it is great to get a sweep and important to win at least one.