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SR had been adamant for several weeks there will be transfers "for the betterment of the team". This tells me he may know exactly who's leaving or who is causing issues.
This may be a premature topic but any idea who it could be? I have my suspicions but I don't think any of us know unless you have good info from within the program. So any clues?
"For the betterment of the team"....hahaha that's funny. This is damage control for the players who are leaving. The reality is NMP is in serious trouble. We are are going to continue the downward trend in WBBQuote:
Originally Posted by HaggardDawg
I may very well be most of our most talented players. Rickea, JaMya, Matharu, Carter, possibly Hayes. These girls came here to win, and it's beyond obvious they have no confidence in this coach.
Yup!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs
Nikki has run them off and will tear it down like I said. Screw John Cohen! This has become his thing with every hire. Just tear it apart and start over. Completely different direction. He knew when he hired her she was wanting to move to a pressing and running style. He should've known this shit wouldn't work.
I have to admit that I don't follow Women's basketball that closely, but how the hell do we go from a Final Four team, to perennial Top 10 team - to a team that goes 10-9 and 5-7 in the SEC in one season?
I mean, what the hell.
It just shows again that loads of talent with no direction is at best mediocre.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Coach Nikki came in with an incredible resume'. I was 100% on board. Now I wonder if it was a "diversity" hire more than anything.
Wishing now that we had just promoted Johnnie Harris.
Good Coaches make the correct moves with style of play especially a young team. Nothing wrong with wanting and changing but to change with what was working in your first year with a young team was down right dumb! Her problem is she is a soft coach and players have no respect for her and no hustle which is the coaches problem. She should have been sitting players who don't listen or do what is needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Bad hire yes so far, we shall see what happens say next year but I'm not thinking she will stay 3 or 4 years IF things stay the same.
I'm not putting all the blame on Cohen from what I've seen on the floor from this team.
Not saying SR knows what he's talking about on this but he has said that there were issues last year when Vic was here with certain players that never got reported. So that elimates Madison hayes.
Someone is leaving for the betterment of the team, so are you saying NMP is leaving?Quote:
Originally Posted by HaggardDawg
That resume that you speak of was mostly as player and carrying another coaches clipboard, not a HC. Mostly unknown.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Old Dominion?Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
There weren't issues last year on the court. The issues were being late for shoot around. It's being used to try to paint this situation a certain way. But last year the one they're talking about played lights out and played hard. Did some FR stuff, but that's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaggardDawg
RJQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Yeah. The WBB program is toast. Advice: stop following it. The run is over. For good.
Funny! Cohen hired a proven HC, with SEC playing time and SEC coaching time as an assistant! If he had promoted a 21 year career assistant from 'inside,' he would have been castrated!Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
3 Years HC at Ole Dominion, improved record every year. Ole Dominion with a rich WBB history and a record 10 National Championships!Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
They can have her back. They haven't won a title in years. CUSA is awful! Let's not pretend that program compares to us currently. Well, prior to this hire. They won a title in 85. OM was dominant back then. They haven't won 10 NCAA titles either.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiscuitEater
I know 3 years at ODU. That ani't a proven HC record for a top 5 program. Moorhead had a few years at Fordham too with a good record and Moorhead took over an average program. Our WBB was top 5 good. Apples and oranges. I've said this over and over.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Her only impressive resume stuff was as a player, that is it. Sitting on bench holding a clipboard is not top tier resume for a top 5 program.
Apples and oranges. ODU hasn't been relative in forever. I guess we should have hired the Nebraska football coach since Nebraska is a powerhouse program. NotQuote:
Originally Posted by BiscuitEater
With that line of thinking I see how we made such a bad hire. The Pat Summit thing is what did it. Heard it over and over. She is a winner, etc. Being a player and a HC ain't even close to same thing. Rookie hiring process. Pathetic.
Yeah some are saying it hindsight; I'm not. I have no idea if Johnnie would have been good or not. I would hope we could have hired a more proven HC.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiscuitEater
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Originally Posted by Dawgology
And if Harris would've struggled, you and a few others would be whining that it was a lazy hire and why didn't he look at that up-and-comer at Old Dominion?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
We tried to get an established, successful SEC head coach but the guy at UK was just using us for leverage for a raise/extension. Maybe we just need to hire you as AD.Quote:
Originally Posted by R2Dawg
And you would be wrong. WBB is not as high on my give-a-shit meter as you think it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Isn't he the guy who retired for health reasons prior to this season?Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
If anyone had struggled anything close to what NMP has there would have been heavy criticism, would not have mattered who it was. That being said I thought the right move was to give Harris the job unless we could bring in a proven high level HC. NMP was definitely not that. Harris was the best option we had to try and keep rolling with what Vic had established.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Matthew Mitchell showed no interest. Jeff Walz at Louisville used us to leverage a raise. He did the same thing when the Tennessee job was open.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Maybe, I don't know how I could have screwed it up any worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
So you think there are no quality coaches outside the one SEC guy? We didn't search long and hired too quick.
Hard to believe we had Greg Byrne at MSU. He set us up for the success that Strickland had and also set him up for the UF gig. Who hired Greg, Foglesong? It is a special gift to identify real leaders. Not many have it.
Yep, Vic Schaefer ain?t walking through that door.... or anyone else worth a flip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
Probably so. There are very, very few elite coaches in WBB and we just sort of stumbled into one with Vic. He was certainly never an elite HC before arriving at MSU. If he had been we would not have gotten him at the time in our program we did. Doubt we will ever see that magic happen in Starkville again for that sport. Only real regret was not reeling in a NC title for the school when we had 2 shots at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
McCray certainly looks like a dud, but the reality is that in basketball more than any other sport, and women's basketball especially, it is 100% about the coach. We are not and we're not a top 5 program, Vic Schaefer is a top 5 coach. We were going to have to find someone else as good to replicate that success, and the chances of that are insanely slim.
This years performance compared to last year with virtually the same players has been the biggest ( cluster 17 ) in the history of MSU sports performance. Or at least that's how it appears to me.
I agree about WBB and the Coach being the biggest difference in the program. In basketball the Coach has 15 players at most to deal with, baseball and football different animal as assistants play a much bigger role controlling and having an influence on "what they are responsible for with players". Women athletes are different, if you don't believe me (I have Coached men and women in Basketball and track) look at girls softball, Geez!Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness