Buddy of mine posted that the MHSAA is considering to switch the Spring sports to the Fall and Fall to the Spring. What's your thoughts?
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Buddy of mine posted that the MHSAA is considering to switch the Spring sports to the Fall and Fall to the Spring. What's your thoughts?
Spring football would be after signing day. You would have to wonder if all of the athletes who signed would still play or would they early enroll in college.
Players that play both football and basketball, which sport would they choose and would it water down both. For baseball/football players, would the baseball players choose to prepare for their spring/summer travel ball seasons.
Can you play football in the spring and turn around and play it again in the fall? These are just a few issues. I'm sure there are many more.
They discussed it today. Non contact sports in fall and contact sports in the spring. No decision was expected on the issue.
If you made me wager today, I would guess football in the fall. Delayed start. Conference games only + playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
That's probably where it's headed.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Don Hinton, Executive Director of the MHSAA is resigning December 31st.
A little late there. Sorry BLANTONS is talking.Quote:
Originally Posted by coastratdog
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Originally Posted by notsofarawaydawg
Hoop made some great points.
If we flip seasons- it will cause all kinds of problemsL
1. No football before signing day. Your top guys wont have a problem- but so many recruits are in the middle. Hurts both them and the colleges needing the evaluation time
2. Many Senior HS kids get very lazy come Springtime. Programs will lose some role player type kids that know they arent playing after HS. These kids will just choose to get a job after school or find something else to do instead of play.
3. Kids with major injuries in the Spring wont have the time to be rehab and be ready for the Fall- injuries like ACL tears and such
4. Wear and tear on players with a full Spring schedule then a full Fall.
5. Hurts baseball guys that play football.
I say delay things about 2-3 weeks and lets roll. It's so hot in August anyway- its actually good for the kids to delay it. When I was young nobody kicked off their season before the last Friday of August anyway. The death rate from the virus i basically at flu levels now. We know it attacks the elderly and people with other conditions for the most part. I saw a stat that said less than 200 people nationwide had died from the virus age 25 and under. It's time to live life.
I understand your point about the young kids not dying from it, but do these high school kids live on their own?
No, how many live with their grandparents? Big picture, yes, it probably won’t affect them at all, but what happens when they carry that virus home to their parents/guardians?
Don’t get me wrong, I want football more than anybody else, but what happens when just one person does from this?
Heck no. I say they should go back to two a day practices in August like I went through. Made me a better manQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
#2 is what spring sports deal with every year. I’d like to see football deal with that for a change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Agree on your other points.
Then they die, just like they die from car wrecks, cancer, flu, pneumonia, heart attacks, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hambone
We cannot stop bad things from happening. Trying to put kids' lives on hold for two or more years is not going to stop bad things from happening. Maybe we'll get lucky and get a vaccine early that will prevent deaths, but for the most part, we'll just be delaying them. And putting kids' lives on hold for two or more years is also a very bad thing, and I think this is one of those things where people are inadvertantly being giant ass holes. Losing a couple of years of high school or college may not be death, but that is a bad thing, and when you aggregate that across the country, that is a terrible result. All the people making the decisions seem to have zero sympathy or empathy for the young people who they are asking to make sacrifices much greater than the ones they are willing to make. Locking down for two years in your 40's or 50's is a world of difference between locking down in your teens or 20's.
What’s the difference in them being in classrooms all day and then going home? Riding the bus to school? Going to house parties on the weekends???? Is adding football to the mix really increasing anything?
this is COVID ... please check all rational thought at the doorQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
August heat is more dangerous to them than COVID, but when they're away from each other they really need to act like they're infected. They likely are spreading it everywhere and we can't max out hospital capacity again. Want to play ball? Wear masks and stop the spread. Don't want to play ball? Don't wear masks. It's almost that simple.
Here's the problem with that, they can wear a mask when they go in a store, but they're not going to wear a mask at a house party, workout, lake trip, etc. Then they bring it back home and give it to a mom or dad, brother or sister and they've spread it probably before they even knew they had it. Your idea is correct in theory, but most teens aren't going to isolate themselves and not go anywhere for the entire summer. It's just a fact. And I for one, wouldn't feel right telling a kid that they have to sit in the house all summer so that MAYBE they could play football in the fall.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
If football players don't socially distance themselves and wear mask, football will be over before it starts. Not trying to suggest a policy here. Just telling you what's got to happen right now to save football, if it's even salvageable at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
And that's my main issue with trying to tell people what to do. No one knows what to do. Because as we've seen we have to take this thing week by week and honestly day by day. It could be better in two weeks or we could see there's no way in hell there will be any kind of season. If it was a thing where you could tell people that if you wear a mask for a month then we'll be fine then everyone would do it. But there's no end game to this. It MIGHT be wear a mask for a month and everything will be fine, but it could also be wear a mask for 6 months and we're in just about the same position. I agree that if you wear a mask it'll probably help some, but some isn't enough to get everyone on the same page in regards to masks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
I’m not following, most schools are offering the option to distance learn, therefore being in the classroom or on the bus is moot.
Most of Mississippi cannot "distance learn". Most schools have over 50% of students that have no way to distance learn because they dont have internet at home or a device to do their work on. I had about 75 students this Spring at Quitman in my 3 classes- less than 10 completed their "distance learning" assignments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hambone
Distance learning is not feasible in the state of Mississippi outside of your suburbs. Parents have nobody to watch their kids while they work. They have to have kids go to school. School is the only way about 20% are able to eat regularly. School is happening this Fall.
No it's not at all that simple. My wife caught this and neither of us went anywhere. I mean no Where. We used instacart for groceries and we both have jobs that keep us away from people and we live way out in the country... masks dont make that big of a difference when people are constantly touching their face anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
You nailed it brother. This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Hell for a lot of these kids it's more risky for them to not be in school than the virus.
Or, everyone could stop whining, man up and go back to living life. Who knows.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by preachermatt83
The thing that most of you (a few do) don't get is that neither the Department of Education, the MHSAA, or the MAIS will make that call. Bitching to them and about them is useless.
Honest question here: The canton school district has said they plan to go to school 3 days and do distance learning 2. Who keeps the kids the other 2 days when parents work? Will it be grandparents who are at risk of disease and now have to be around grandkids? Would going to school every other day really stop the spread? Am I missing the logic here?
So "don't try to prevent the spread" is your answer because you don't think masks work?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
If you are within 6' of a person with COVID and neither of you are wearing a mask, you have a 17+% chance of getting it. If the person with COVID is wearing a mask it's 3%. That's a 6 fold increase in transmission. If you want to kill football season keep making excuses to not wear masks. Even the President, who isn't a fan of science, finally admitted people should wear masks. Which I believe means you have permission to be ok with masks now. You'll have to ask him, but I think he told FNC that y'all arent calling masks a "hoax" anymore. Coronavirus is no longer a Democrat hoax either. It's really real. But Russia having our soldiers killed, that's still a "hoax," for now.
I literally just told you my wife got it so I don't follow your hoax assumption. Work on your reading comprehension.Quote:
Originally Posted by Political Hack
I'm saying that masks alone aren't going to be the difference maker. It's not that simple. There are way too many people that are getting this without ever leaving home.
he just can't pass up an opportunity for that horseshit political propagandaQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Horseshit political propaganda? Which part? The science part or the part based on the words that came out of the Presidents mouth?
Wear a mask. Save football.
You are exactly right. I had a daughter and stepson in 8th grade in Rankin County in the burbs and the distance ?learning? was basically glorified busy work. There was no challenge to it at all. And even they said that a good number of their classmates just chose to do none of it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
If you as a parent in MS,at least in the public schools, are banking on distance learning for your kid you may as well just let them skip the year altogether. It would be about the same result.
A virus that has virtually zero chance of killing anyone that is playing football will not determine whether or not we have football. People trying to politicize it will determine that, but it will have zero to do with the safety of anyone playing and 100 % to do with how they can spin this politically. The southeast will play football because the governors of those states will have zero chance of getting reelected if they try to push that horse shit down their citizens' throats. Any coach or at risk person can decide on their own whether or not they need to be in a locker room environment that increases their risk of catching COVID. If they decide not to coach, there will be plenty of people willing to take their job, just like there are plenty of people willing to take jobs at every single company in America right now.
Alright you can say all you want about what football players should do. But lets look at some real science here. Football players are generally highly fit males during the portion of their pubescent and post pubescent lives. Women will find them attractive and they will find women attractive.
So just like it has always been, people that age are going to have sex. A lot of it. As much as possible. And there is no force on earth that is going to stop it. So we might as well have football, in class learning, the whole nine yards. Because none of those things will matter if you can't stop the hooking up.
EDIT: Here is a perfect example of how teenagers act. You can't stop it. https://www.al.com/news/2020/07/tusc...rus-first.html
There were school districts that took the grades at the time students were ordered to stay at home for the remainder of the year. Nothing was required and in some cases, no or very little additional work was assigned. Not just very small schools either. I know a 4A school that sent kids home and the students did nothing the rest of the year.
The Chinese virus isn’t even in the top 10 things to worry about when it comes to football . All sports for that matter
everyone be smart use common sense , masks when needed , practice good hygiene .. and everything will be fine
But we all know what this is all really about...
What are parents supposed to do with kids during the day if distance learning is required?
So were you sick or did you have any symptoms? I keep reading where test aren't accurate or they are saying 30% are not correct. My thing is if one doesn't feel bad or is sick, has no symptoms but yet gets tested and shows you have the virus, what the hell does that mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
It happened in all the Jones County schools. West Jones is 5A and it happened here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?