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OM has been trying to tell us that for a few years now ... that's the only thing they got right in their entire historyQuote:
Originally Posted by Duckdog
What did he do now?
Attacking Gundy for wearing a right wing T shirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I'm so sick of politics.
The innate problem here with all this garbage is that by chastising people's opinions that you don't agree with, you prevent conversation, which prevents society's problems from being solved.
Again, I'm in no way taking a political side, but as I've said before about Wolken, what progress is made in society, it will absolutely not happen by chastising the people that have opinions that you don't agree with.
We all have different life experiences that have shaped the way we see the world & just because we are unable to understand someone else's life experience, doesn't mean that they're wrong. It just means that their life experiences have not allowed them to understand what you believe.
Therefore, it's pertinent that conversation & discussion happen on a consistent basis both ways & without judgement. That's the only way change happens without blood shed.
Cancel culture refuses to do that &, regardless of your political stances, that's a huge huge problem.
Wolken is the least of OSU's problems
He wants Gundy fired because of his beliefs. Like I said he's a douche
Ah. I see it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
To be fair, OAN is absolutely bat shit. I don't even consider it "right wing", either...as that would be Fox, Daily Wire, The Hill, etc. Putting OAN in that category, does a disservice to actual conservative media. That shit is literally a cesspool of conspiracy theory and sycophantic grifters (with a dash of antisemitism thrown in, too).
He picks out a new coach to chastise each week. It's sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckdog
What people don't realize is that politics are not a pendulum, they are a circle in which, at the extremes, the two sides become far more alike than different. What's the difference between Stalin & Hitler? On paper one was far left & the other far right, but reality, they were just about the same damn person.
Stop extremism both ways. Understand the other side
Chuba Hubbard is threatening to sit out because of Gundy wearing an OANN t shirt. This s**t is laughable
Regardless, it doesn't help to chastise people that differing, peaceful opinions. It helps in absolutely no way.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
Maybe I'm not seeing it, and please correct me if so, but I'm only seeing Wolken retweet current and former OSU players/peeps commenting on the Gundy photo; I would hardly call that "wanting him fired" or trying to spearhead it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duckdog
Soooo....does Okie State have any WRs that we could poach? ...I?ll hang up and listen
Don't disagree. Twitter is the ****ing worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Some stances/POV are worthy of discussion and others aren't worthy of being brought into respectful conversation. I understand that's a steep line to cross, but OAN is so up against the 3rd rail it's disgusting. They have a laundry list of perverse and deceitful coverage. Anyone supporting of a "news" outlet like that isn't worthy of such respectful discourse. Just last week they had an anchor/reporter refuting an on site report from the riots about DJT. That reporter had previously been known to work for Russian state run media. That's just the start of it. They ran multiple pizza gate stories, covered up sexual assault cases, etc. It's horrifying. This isn't "politics" as it is normally defined in American. This is harmful to society and the intelligence of Americans. I'd urge you to research them.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Grundy is a grown man and doesn't take crap off wantabies. He is twice the man a lot of these sleezeball coaches are nowadays. Good for him for doing what he wants and that's a guy that backs his players from pricks like Wolken. Remember, he's 40.
Or defensive backs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
??? One was the head of a communist party and one was the head of a socialist party. Neither was on the right.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
The reason some extremes seem the same is that there are lots of different things to care about in policy/politics and it would be shocking for them to align on the same axis consistently. Left and right only makes sense at all b/c we have a system set up for dominance by two political parties, and we have linked policies b/c of political realities and started to view them as logically linked because of tribalism.
For example, there is no logical reason that how a person feels about unions would be particularly predictive of how they feel about abortion. But it is because people pick parties based on an issue or two they care about and then align their views on things they don't care as much about based on what the "good people" believe. Or they entirely skip the step where they decide what they care about, and just latch on to a group they have affiliation for for one reason or another and match their views to theirs.
Sounds like liberals in this country are turning into total fascists where you aren't allowed to have a differing opinion than them. I don't remember conservatives ever getting to the point where they refuse to be around, work with or socialize with any liberal. There is a whole multitude of Trump supporters out there that are scared out of their minds to publicly say they are because of all the backlash they would receive if people around them knew.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Both Stalin and Hitler were far left....neither Communism or Facism are right wing traits...Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Heck no. The only decent DB's in that conference play for Texas and Okl.....nah. Maybe Texas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
The real problem is the media that fuels all the outrage. Until Americans realize this and shut them down completely and force them to report on things fairly both left and right it will not change.
Agree. Social media has it’s benefits but I fear it will ruin society.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Actually according to a class I took at MSU in the mid 60's on economic systems, facism is the extreme right and communism is the extreme left. They actually end up pretty close, but that's what I was taught in the course. Really interesting course on all the various economic systems. Did not get into politics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
Tylan Wallace will be a Senior & is one of the best WR's in the country. Caught like 53 balls for 900 yds and 8 TD's last year. Super shifty guy who can go up and get it too. He'll be one of the first WR's drafted I'm sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Had another dude, Dillon Stoner I think is his name, caught like 52 balls for 600 yds and 5 TD's. I'd seriously tell someone to take a hike to make a spot for either of those guys lol.
The left supports the principles of taking out the weak (abortion and euthanasia) and keeping the poor down(welfare and social programs that destroyed the Black Middle Class in the 60s).... sounds a lot like Hitler to me....also it wasn?t the right that was against integration....it was the DemocratsQuote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
Jesus Christ, can you please not do your best to get this thread locked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
Gundy will come back groveling at the players feet. Then he will get the Drew Brees treatment a day or two.
What will be interesting is how all this affects the decision of Joe Average Fan. We may never know because of covid and that may be a good thing. But that's a big deal canceling the Eyes of Texas, for Texas fans.
Also it will be interesting come August if our flag isn't changed.
I supported Cohen as baseball coach and AD despite his political views. I support Leach who has the opposite views as Cohen. I don't care what our coaches believe politically as long as they do a good job for MSU. Sports and politics should be separate. I can't wait for sports to start back again so the two can be separated more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Good for both of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19
Exactly this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
You substitute a word and that would be CNN. They 'lived' off 3+ years of a totally fake Russian hoax.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I am in.
I don't believe sports and political/social issues will ever separated again. Espn, social media give athletes the platform. Also as some writer said on Finebaum today, athletes have the leverage to speak up.
Be honest, you got political yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I've seen very little anti Semitic within conservative media. The other side has the market cornered on that if we are being honest.
No I didn't. I called out OAN. Those people aren't conservative; they're something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Lol, I didn't say "conservative media" was delving in antisemitic conspiracy theories; I said OAN was. I even went as far as distinguishing the difference between more respectable "conservative media" and the likes of OAN. There are plenty of conservative media types I not only read for info, but whose opinions I respect (even when I disagree with them, which is often). OAN is trash.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Sports badly need to come back. Something.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeardoMSU
I can either delete his post or lock the thread if people respond to it. We have let a lot of straight shit throwing by people with Noone willing to truly discuss points. The US is so polarized.. Especially with a predominantly slant to one mindset.
This is not a board for politics once again.
So many more things can be discussed about this situation than more mud slinging.
If Tony Hughes went fishing on his personal time, and was photographed wearing a Huffington Post t-shirt, it wouldn't bother me. And if a white player stirred the crap about it, I would think said player was a moron.
That's the thing, though, you're equating Huff Post and OAN as media equals, which is hilarious. I don't care how much you despise Huff Post, or consider them liberal hacks who are full of shit...and that's perfectly fine. Huff Post has their fair share of hacks, as does every network/media entity. I could share similar feelings about certain talking heads on the right, such as a Sean Hannity or Glen Beck, but even on their worst days (and there are a lot of 'em), I wouldn't lower them to the likes of OAN. That's what you're not getting. Apples and bowling balls.Quote:
Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw
I am confused about OAN. I've never watched it. It's not available from the cable outlet in my area. I only know of it thru reading a couple of Twitter profiles of corespondents whom I thought were conservative. That said, even Coach Grundy seems to be confused about it, and there's something deeper at play between he and Chuba.