1-year deal.
I love this signing. Winston is still just 26. Payton might can fix this guy
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1-year deal.
I love this signing. Winston is still just 26. Payton might can fix this guy
Totally disagree. This guy living in the Big Easy? What could possibly go wrong**Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Tell me everything you know about arians system. Every signal, the meaning of every word at the line of scrimmage, etc...
I doubt Sean will be able to explain that to Jamies. ****Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Winston is a guy that's wasted his ability. He can't get out of his own way. That generally doesn't change after you've lived that way for an extended period. Still a solid back up if he can control himself.
Maybe this is the wake up call he needs. He will get to watch one of the best (brees), and get taught by one of the best (Payton). If he's still immature, cut bait. This is no riskQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Saw a post on twitter about speeding the draft up. Said if he wanted to see 32 picks in three hours he'd just watch Jamies play.
Winston actually has extremely small hands and that is a major reason for his issues with accuracy.
Yes, the wildness doesn't help, but from an evaluation standpoint, the small hands are reason. Good luck fixing that.
So what's your opinion on burrow? Burrow at 9". Winston at 9.375". I think hand size is certainly relevant, but not an end all/be allQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
- First off, it'll be interesting to see Burrow actually ends up with the same issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
- Secondly, everyone is different. Some guys have other traits that allow them to overcome it. Some guys don't. It's a little bit like pitchers with crappy arm actions: if they throw strikes & command the ball with the bad arm action, then it's irrelevant, but if they can't do those things, they likely never will
- When I watch Winston play: 2 things are clear - The ball pops out of his hand & he's got great arm strength, but the ball also sails him consistently & that's a pretty true sign of small hands.
Perhaps you're right. I trust Sean Payton more than you though on qbs. If Sean likes him, good enough for meQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Don't me wrong... I don't mind the idea by Payton, as at worst Winston is a hell of a back up that can win you a game. And I agree, if anyone can help Winston, it's Payton.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
However, I just wouldn't bet on him ever being much if any better than what he's been.
Payton and Brees have always liked him. Winston spent his 1st couple of offseasons working with Brees.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Nope. This is a ridiculous decision. Everyone in the league is laughing at Loomis and Payton. What a shitshow.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We need to merge this thread with the one about "culture"....
Winston nfl ranks in 2019:Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Yds - 1st
Td - 2nd
Yds/att - 5th
Ints - most in nfl
Sacks - 2nd in nfl
Obviously the ints are a problem, but he was under constant pressure and he's a back up. Laughing at the saints for signing Winston as a backup, yeah right
They said the same when The Saints signed Teddy Bridgewater to the big contract a few years ago. This is a can't hurt signing and all they have to do is keep him out of the Quarter.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Did the deal include soft shell crabs?
Who is they? Bridgewater is/was nowhere near the interception machine that Winston is.Quote:
Originally Posted by parabrave
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Originally Posted by msstate7
There are 2 other available QBs that would have made a ton more sense.
Flacco and Newton
Newton? Guy is a complete head case and he would probably get swallowed up in the NOLA culture. Especially if he's not starting which he wouldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Career ending injury/ Had a great 1st year got injured and never played up to that year.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
I guess you would have to ask Sean Payton about his logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
Lifted this off saints' board...
Jameis Winston was offered a more lucrative deal by the Pittsburgh Steelers, per source. In the end, he decided to learn under Drew Brees and Sean Payton
Per a Bucs beat reporter
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Well did you see the deal they just gave Tay Hill? Holy smokes - $16m guaranteed over next 2 years is what I read
From a Adam Shcefter tweet:
"Saints did sign a QB today: Taysom Hill. Saints are signing Hill to a two-year deal that really is a one-year extension of the first-round, $4.6 million contract tender they gave him in March, per source. But Hill is tied to Saints through 2021 season."
He is the one year insurance if Drew gets hurt. He will not be the guy going forwards.
Jamies Winston is an idiot. That?s why he sucks, not hand size. He?s an imbecileQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
That is quality. Plus probably accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen