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I?d give my pinky finger if this were true
BS.
Where are the ****** at?
If true then holy shit!! We?d be better off with oh I don?t know, anybody else.
well here comes Top 50 recruiting classes
Bullshit
He's just following Dellinger. Will never happen.
Mike Leach is extremely entertaining and I love how he just does his own thing. That being said what QBs and WRs on our roster are capable of running his offense? Will Rogers is more of pro style than anyone we have right now but he'll be a true freshman and we still don't have the type WRs that Leach needs and top that off with the fact that his teams never really play defense and it's a recipe for disaster. He would make a splash and be entertaining but he's not a fit for us just like the one we just fired.
He has Rogers here, the QB he wanted at Wazzou, and I would bet we pull a needed receiver in the final Feb class with this. Not to mention the possible coaching tree if an OC comes and learns off it as possible replacement coach.
He coaches at outposts where there are no players even remotely in 100 miles of the schools. Put him in MS with this system, a good DC and we are much better off long term.
I seriously doubt it. If it's true, we MIGHT win 4 games next year, if we are lucky. It will be a disaster on an Arkansas scale.
So Leach is simultaneously unable to recruit, but also relies on high caliber QBs and WRs to run his offense. 🤔🤔
Pick a criticism, it can't be both or he wouldn't be so consistently successful.
It does not take long to get rolling in his system. I followed him for years at Tech. And recruits will come fast on the Offense. Get a good DC to keep the defense rolling.
He recruited Rogers hard to Wazzou.
Tech has never been close to the teams he had there. Wazzou is in nowhere, and he got players to come there based on reputation.
We may not win on Saturdays but we would most assuredly win on Mondays when it was press conference time. Unfortunately out of the 57 bowls we have now, there is no Press Conference Bowl.
Haha!! Exactly!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
He's been successful in the Big 12 and the Pac 12 not in the SEC, big difference there. He would be going up against totally different defenses here in the SEC. I love Leach and he's a brilliant offensive coach but imo it's not a fit for us.
What a terrible idea that would be. Can you see Leach sitting in a home is Mississippi trying to talk to momma and daddy. I mean....hahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahQuote:
Originally Posted by fccee1
Although I would love to sit down and have a beer with him and talk Star Wars.
DISASTER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS!!!!
Not only no, but HELL NO!
What does intrigue me about Leach is the highest rated recruiting classes he's ever had is 46.
If we surrounded him with enough recruiters to get top 30 classes, what could he do?
You call him a bad recruiter, but he's never coached at a school that wasn't in the middle of nowhere or that he could recruit to.
It's fascinating think what could be possible. He's never played defense, but he's never had the defensive players he would at MSU.
He doesn’t care about defense. If he did surely he could have gotten a decent DC at some point over the years. If he had he would have won a lot more games. Seems he’d rather win 62-60 than to win 62-21. Btw he ain’t scoring 62 on a bad SEC defense much less the top ones. I can’t see him working out here.
You're telling me he's never had a recruiting class at Texas Tech higher than 46?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
His best recruiting class in his career was ranked 46th.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeputyDawg94
Find a team with those types of classes that can play defense. Defense is about speed and athleticism and he's never had those types of players. At MSU he would.
Correct. He's never had the talent to play defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
Texas Tech is in the middle of nowhere. Tough to recruit to unless you're just wanting white boys that can run an offense like Wes Welker
Lol. Another wild story.
Leach has had plenty of opportunities to coach in the SEC and always turned them down. He's an extremely intelligent man.
Leach isn't the answer.
He's coached in the SEC before. And was very successful. So much so that Stoops hired him when he got the HC at Oklahoma because he couldn't stop Leach while the DC at Florida.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
He does not rely on high level anything. But if he was to coach somewhere not at a far outpost like Lubbock or Pullman, he would have an even better team. He really has not ever been where hes on a fair playing field in that respect.
You mean when he was at UK with Mumme? Yeah they had some success but he wasn't the HC and was only there for 2 years.There's a reason he hasn't taken a HC job in the SEC. Like I said he's very intelligent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
I'd say that's a plus. That he can win with that type recruiting. Does more with less, which is what has to be done at a place like State. Not saying he's my choice, but never doubt the man can't coachQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
He called every play at Ky. Mumme never had the offenses post Leach that he did with Leach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
And please don't get me wrong I really like Leach and think he's a brilliant offensive Coach. I always watch his teams play because there entertaining and fun but I personally don't think he fits MSU. Just my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
I agree. I think there's a pretty chance it would work if we helped him get the staff right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiderman
'09 class - 39th (247) 33rd (Rivals)Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
'08 class - 45th (Rivals)
'07 class - 42nd (247) 53rd (Rivals)
'06 class - 28th (247) 25th (Rivals)
'05 class - 38th (247) 37th (Rivals)
'04 class - 39th (247) 33rd (Rivals)
'03 class - 43rd (Rivals)
'02 class - 47th (Rivals)
He recruited fine at Tech. I couldn't find data pre '02 but besides that he had one class below 46 at Tech. Now Wash St is another story but when has Wash St in the last few decades ever recruited well? I don't believe they've recruited highly since before Ryan Leaf. I'm impressed with what the guy has been able to accomplish at Wash St. He's a winner.
Leach would be awesome, but it ain't happening
He’s been in two defense optional leagues. Can’t have that mindset here. Nobody can convince me he’s willing to change. He’d have to prove that on his own. Like I said earlier, in all the years he’s been coaching he hasn’t done anything defensively. He could have lucked into a decent defense at some point you’d think.
He has never turned down a HC offer to the SEC. He wants in the SEC. An when I lived in TX, he would make comments about wanting it. He wants the southern players in his system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Tell Tennessee thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
Don't want
Tell them what?? They need to be told alot of things. Where do we startQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
If that's the case which I don't believe it is. Talk about a bad fit for MSu. Great for press conferences. But I just don't see him getting along with Cohen at all. Not to mention this will be a complete rebuild to go to an air raid offense. You think you were frustrated watching the moorhead offense for two years? Wait until you sit through three years of waiting for this to develop. SEC defensive lines and secondary are licking their chops about the idea of this.
He would be fun to hang out with and discuss crazy things. He is always funny as long as he isn't your coach. He is the guy that you go hang out and party with but you definitely want to part ways with at a certain point in the night.