Same BS different year. And he wonders why no one supports MBB. Get his ass out of here now.
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Same BS different year. And he wonders why no one supports MBB. Get his ass out of here now.
He gets the rest of this year. But thats it. He just Doesnt get the most out of the talent. This team likely will not make the tourney barring going in a tear, and that is a horrible coaching job with 5 and 4 stars all over the floor.
Game has passed him by. He gets out coached every game.
17 this shit. He's lazy and has no energy or any knowledge of how things are done these days to be an elite team. God what I'd give to have a competent floor coach that had 2 (5) stars and 3 (4) stars in the starting line up. There are so many coaches who would be foaming at the bit to have this bunch to coach.
We have 2 5*s and neither are Fr. The rest if our lineup is 4* and none if them are Fr either.
We have 2 true So, 1 true Jr, 1 RS Jr, and 1 RS Sr. Theres a ton of experience to go along with the talent.
Howland gets credit for getting it here, but its abundantly clear hes reached his ceiling here.
At this point dare I say making the tournament will harm the program overall? If we make it Howland is back but we'll never do better under him. If we must it he'll probably be fired and we get fresh blood.... go ahead, tell me in not a State fan and I'm horrible. I'm just spitballing here
Nope....we got beat by a better team. Typical over reaction on here.
Over reaction my ass. Name one game since Howland has been here where he actually coached worth a shit? One!
BingoQuote:
Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
At what point to you hold this mother17er accountable? we were at 17ing home as a 1.5 Dog. Did it look like that to you? what about La Tech? NMSU? You think we are getting a good job done here? what the 17 tells you we are?Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
Yeah I have seen enough. Im no basketball expert but we have 0 offense and their is about 10 minutes each game we play with no effort
We have some fans that are just happy that we have pretty uniforms and show up to play with our fight song playing in the background. Results be damned.
We got beat by a better team.. you guys are over the top. We'll be fine.
Kind of like all the coaches that are dying to coach the football team?Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
I have no problem getting beat by a better team as long as we play competent basketball. We constantly see the same thing in most games though. Great offensive play for about 5 minutes and then streaks of absolute head scratchers that are momentum killers. It makes it tough to truly buy into the team and the program when they never have a big defining win to say "we've finally turned the corner! MSU basketball is back!"Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
You really don't understand too many things, do you.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
2 guard recruiting has killed us. Haven't signed one in the last 4 classes. Really should have hit the portal this offseason to find a 6-3, 6-4 guy that could knock down shots. That's going to be the difference this year unless Carter can get it going.
I understand a delusional fan when I see one.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Lose a game in any sport = fire coach. I will try to fall in line next time.
Yea, our recruiting has really sucked. we just don't have the talent. too bad we missed out on some kids that would really have made a difference. ************************************************** ************************************************** *****************Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Team is the key word here. Talent wise ... no.Quote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
ONE game? surely you jest.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
Everyone else is packing their arenas with new coaches. Howland sucks the life out of the arena and everyone leaves pissed off. It’s time for him to go. If he can’t get this going by now, he’s not going to.
A rare agreement with Bruce. We can all be pissed about that performance, but calling for Howland to be fired is ridiculous. He has resurrected us from the dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
I agree. We lack a reliable shooter from 3 point range. I don't know where we finished tonight, but at one point we were 2/11. That's not going to get it done against elite competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Cohen, time to get going again. earn your paycheck and do what is needed. NOW.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJDAWG85
You are wrestling a pig in mudQuote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
Yikes, you either didn't read my post, are you are just being a child.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
Our 2 guard play was the difference today.
Yes, Howland has not added much life to our program. We should expect more. There's a reason the HUMP no longer rocks. It used to, what are we willing and capable of doing to get that back?Quote:
Originally Posted by CJDAWG85
Carter was 1-11. His backup, DJ Stewart, is not a true 2 guard. He's more of a slasher. We haven't signed a 2 guard since Carter really.Quote:
Originally Posted by THE Bruce Dickinson
and what's the 17ing reason / excuse for the next game? and the next after that? how much more can we 17ing take? 17 this shit man, enough already.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
For those of you who want him gone, who could we possibly even get that would be better than him? Our basketball job is not very attractive compared to the rest of the SEC, especially considering our lack of fan support for almost a decade now.
Yeah, I'm on the keep Howland train. Feels like we've been headed in the right direction, just haven't seen results.
Whoever said the game has passed him by is correct. I want Dick to be ready next year.
We went to the NCAA tourney last year bud. That was the SEC game 1. I still think we make it this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
"think" ? what about "should" ? if you would have predicted his performance to date, would you have taken it on day 1? Wishful thinking about the tourney has passed the MSU / Howland stage and gone long by. There is NO reason why we should not expect a rocking hump with a competitive team. AU has passed us by and so have others. what are you waiting on? losses at home to La Tech? oh wait. ....Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
Calm down some Josey. Not ready for you to not like Howland enough so he ain't around much longer ***
This team is about to go on a little streak and they will be in the tourney. Do you expect duke like results or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by mparkerfd20
Hell we made the tourney for the first time in a decade last year. Who are you going to go out and hire? He gets this year and next at a minimum.
I thought the team played fairly well against a top ten team just let it get away from them. nick Just got back this team will be fine.
Hahaha - how many times have I heard this in multiple sports the last two yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by mstatefan91
If your that upset quit supporting the team and watching them. Simple solution for you. This hobby is clearly unhealthy for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by OLJWales
I used up all my "FIRE HIS ASS!" energy on Joe....I can't help with the Howland shit at this time.
The question boils down to whether or not the team belongs to the coaches, players and athletic personnel or does it belong to the fans? Surely, no one in their right mind expects a program to be run by fan voting, we all get that. But when a team is coached and played on the good ship lollipop fashion, changes need to be considered. Howland has been riding on the Good Ship Lollipop and the fans should not be automatically expected to board it.