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The latest I have is that it appears Moorhead has agreed to the required changes. It is believed an OC with full autonomy and play calling duties was required and Moorhead begrudgingly obliged at the risk of losing his job. Shoop is going to move on and I have been told no assistant is safe. Some may be retained but none are for sure back.
Just a disappointing decision. Things were trending in the right direction towards a dismissal but unfortunately we took the route that just prolongs things.
Pack his bags boys. Moorhead is for sure gone now!
If this is all nothing has been accomplished. This will end up costing way more money, and won’t end well. Lame duck coach won’t be able to hire anybody worth a crap. Look for about 20,000 in the stands next year. Bad move
If true, they could build monuments to this administration's lack of testicular fortitude.
No way Moorhead agrees to an OC with full autonomy
That would be a very small monument.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottH
It was that or get fired. It is really the only choice to make when those are your options.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I am so damn sick of message boards, yet I keep reading them. If he is brought back, looks like I won?t be making any games this year. What a joke
If this bullshit is true, I've seen my last MSU sporting event until Cohen and Keenum are gone. This kind of shit will alienate tens of thousands.
Dude, no one is coming here to work in this program under this HC. The assistants we currently have on staff are actively trying to get outta here in order to save their careers.
Take the buyoutQuote:
Originally Posted by jwells
Agreed. No ****ing way that happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
This is Morris Watts part twoQuote:
Originally Posted by jwells
So Cohen is a GD idiot?Quote:
Originally Posted by jwells
See, I don't think Cohen is a GD idiot & only a GD idiot would make this move.
So I don't believe you
I did hear that that was part of the ultimatum that was made. I just never thought he would agree to it. Something in my gut just told me he would still be here in 2020. Neither side wants to be where we currently are. Bad if true. If it is true I think you will start to see retread names mentioned by our company line guys. Desperate guys looking for a restart (Chizik as DC, shit like that)
I would take Chizik as our DC all damn day.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Oh well, count my ass out for any games until the 17er is gone
He can only help so much when Moorhead is the one in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
I guess you missed his last stint at UNC as a DC. Total shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
I sincerely hope you are dead wrong.....if that?s the case we will have a very difficult time next year replacing Joe...especially since it seems that we ?almost? offered Napier twice in less than two months.....it makes our entire administration look inept at best....Quote:
Originally Posted by jwells
It is VERY clear that Joe is just completely oblivious to everything concerning how to manage a college football team....
If true, worst of all possible outcomes and doesn't accomplish jacksh*t. We will still have a decaying culture and it will still be Joe's offense. Joe has no clue how to run a successful SEC program and that is not going to change in a few months time by making changes forced on him by Cohen to keep his job.Quote:
Originally Posted by jwells
I'd take Chuzik as HC. He would be a good CEO type
Hell no. Because that means Joe is still the head coach & that isn't going to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
IT WON'T WORK
I'll take every other single stop he was at as my jumping off point for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Also, the defense he inherited gave up almost 500 yards a game the year before he got there. 120th in the nation. He moved them to 96th year 1 and 63rd year 2.
I would say not bad.
Same here. If those two really are this stupid (if true) than they need to leave....like now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
I love too that Cohen buys Moorhead's plan/changes every time too. John, how many of the things he has said he will do to fix things has worked. Not one single thing. See through the BS and make the right decision.
If Moorhead stays he would actually be a great DC. Mentor role and could be the interim HC if Joe got fired mid season.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I agree I prefer Moorhead out, but I could even see Napier reach out to a guy like Chizik that has extensive SEC experience and some youthful talent on defense.
Hell no. This is the exact type of shit OM just did. They went 4-8 and fired Luke. I reckon we will step right up and follow them if this crock of shit is true. I had a bad feeling this was gonna happen though bc we are State. Worst possible outcome. I'd rather them just about not do shit than this bc at least then we can clean house in the athletic deptQuote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
This was my understanding as of a couple of days ago. I hoped things had changed. As far as I know, Cohen hasn't met with Moorhead since Tuesday. So I hope this info is either old or wrong.
complete bullshit...Quote:
Originally Posted by jwells
We are a clown show
Shame we would just throw 2020 away when our new coach could be using this year as a rebuilding year for the new install and getting over the learning curve. What a waste of time and money for everyone.
Until joe is gone nothing gets any better. Staff changes won't make any difference, that is if he can get anyone to come here and work for him/
I'm fine with Chizik being Napier's DC, but I refuse to consider that Joe will be back.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
It's such a horrible decision to do so that I just can't imagine that our administration is that stupid
How much say in this do you think Cohen actually has ?Quote:
Originally Posted by jwells
That signals no spine. I believe this report is completely false.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Dude you have yet to be right on a damn thing... Your full of bullshit!!!
Moorhead hasnt had a spine since he got here. Biggest reason for his accountability problem. He wants to be everyone's friend. Only time he has shown any spine was after the Egg and he felt 10 feet tall and bulletproof, further boosted up by his family complaining about hurt feewingsQuote:
Originally Posted by pilldawg
I was right on the discussions being had on Tuesday. Check the board. My posts were the 1st ones out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
Who cares!!! The head guy is still the same clown that could 17 up a football bat. This would one of the dumbest moves ever made by any admin ever, and erase all of what was built before. That football building might as well be demolished and turned into overflow baseball parking.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg