Has gotten Georgia tech to#24 recruiting ranking. Good for him. I hope he finds a way to play and whip Mullen
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Has gotten Georgia tech to#24 recruiting ranking. Good for him. I hope he finds a way to play and whip Mullen
One leaves us for Florida, and we wish him the best. The other leaves us for Florida, and we wish ill will on him. Weird
One ran the other one off. One wasn't our HC. One wasn't arrogant. One gave us 100% in every aspect of the game. One... You get the pictureQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Collins should have been run off for that 1B bullshit. It cost us. And he chose to leave. Mullen didn't fire him. I wouldn't spit on Collins if he was on fire. He did the same thing people hate Mullen for. And he hung us out at the Orange Bowl and Egg Bowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
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Originally Posted by msstate7
Well, they both made lateral moves and both dress like they're 14 year olds....
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Haha forgot about that 1b thing. You're right, that was terrible. I wouldn't coach for a guy that chewed me out in front of everyone like Mullen did to him after the ole Miss game so as much as it makes me mad that he left after that, I understand it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I just don't see how he's recruiting so well at GT. Do they have a lot of bag men that they just haven't utilized until recently?
Do what?? Dan ran him off?? Wow.... either way. Manny had a good class at Miami today. He left us twice. Don't blame him for either. Hope he does well too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
I remember Collins catching some flak for his "lateral move".
Which is hilarious coming from Dan since he made the exact same lateral move three years later.
Both failed to coach the 2014 egg for a chance to participate in the first ever playoff.
I don't care if you have one foot out the door and think you're leaving but at least have enough integrity to finish the job you're at.
You've got it backwards. Part of that ass chewing was because Collins had already mailed it in. He was already out the door. That ass chewing didn't affect that decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
And Georgia / Atlanta metro has plenty of talent. Couple that with plenty of playing time opportunities and it's not a hard sell.
GT couldn't beat Florida if they spotted them 3 TD's.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
Yeah.... going 10-2 back to back years is a lateral move.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh
I'm not a Mullen defender but if it makes you feel better to think to go from MSU to UF is a lateral move then the joke is on you.
Short answer is recruiting to the hip-hop cultural center of the south is not hard if you actually try. O'Leary had a Top 20 class in 2000, even Chan Gailey landed one in 2007. Paul Johnson hated recruiting more than Mullen and Hev.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
Longer answer is that GT has a very powerful alumni base in corporate Atlanta. Until they left the SEC, they were the football power in GA, and there are still a number of people in powerful places that remember that and want to get back some of that. They also have a new university President that I think recognizes that to be competitive, GT has to be about more than engineering and that the growth of GA State (now the largest university in GA) has hurt them. This will be an interesting one to watch - especially with the potential for endorsements, etc coming down the pipe. They won't become Bama, but they could challenge the ACC structure easily.
Good, somebody needs to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Keep this in mind too - UGA signed 3 players from GA yesterday. 3. With UGA moving to a national recruiting model, more GA talent is available to GT (GT got 12 GA kids yesterday) and is the highest profile D1 school available if they want to play in state.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Correct-rep given!Quote:
Originally Posted by Schultzy
I count 4 but didn't realize it was so few. Kirby screwing up letting that happen. There were 37 4* or better players in Ga. Bama, AU, LSU & Clemson wore Ga out in it's own state. Kirby shouldn't ever let that happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Naw ... you got it wrong. Dan was the one with half a foot out the door and shopping himself. The whole team wasn't prepared. Then Collins lost his starting safety before Egg Bowl and the backup went down with ACL early in the game. That's why Ingram tore us up down the middle. On the long run by OM scat back, he was surrounded by like 7 or 8 of our guys and all of them slacked up waiting for one of the others to make the tackle looked like to me. And he exploded through all of them for the 96 yarder.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman4248
Collins got the offer from McE after the post-game presser where Dan blamed him for the loss. But Dan didn't have his offense ready either. One of my main criticisms of Dan (which aren't many anymore) is before Grantham, he'd chew the DC or the D out but never took the blame when he O wasn't performing like it should.
Collins is a good coach IMO. Had two top 10 Ds at FL (8 and 5). The 1B stuff ... most of the stats against us that year were garbage time when we had big leads. And we exploded out to a lot of big leads that year. But that D could clamp down when it wanted to. Only gave up 323 to a Bama O in TTown that was averaging around 600/game when playing in TTown. All while the O put them deep in the hole several times to start the game. Cooper had like 8 or 9 catches for 85 or so yards, with one of those being a 50 yarder (the only long completion of that game). The D didn't play well in EB or Orange Bowl either.
Yeah, I missed 1. And they have 1 more committed. Still, 5 GA kids is almost criminal. I get it's the #4 rated class, but I think it's not going to play well in-state and when push comes to shove may hurt UGA longer term. When Clemson and AU start whipping you with your own kids, UGA Fan will go ballistic. AU signed 8 of the GA top 50Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
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Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
If For whatever reason We are Looking for a new HC after next year , GC would for sure be on my short list if not number 1
He checks basically every box for what everyone says we want and need in a coach.
I like him. Like what he did at Temple. He's a very good motivator too. We could do a whole lot worse IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
I'm on board with that ... Can't blame Collins for not wanting to work for Don ..., no DC wanted to - not even Grantham tho he followed him to Florida and I think he waited to see if we were offering him a shot at HC here before accepting Mullen's offer down there ..... bottom line is Collins is a good coach and recruiter - GA Tech has much higher entry standards than a lot of other schools so apparently he's recruiting smarter guys as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
I like him too. Not sure if he'd wanna leave GT though. I think he'll be successful enough there to get a blue blood (or close)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
GT doesn't have any higher entry standards for their athletes then any other NCAA institution - that's a myth put out by GT people as an excuse. They have had some presidents who capped the number of football players who fell below the basic GT requirements. That has changed a number of times over the years depending upon the president. However, they are limited by degree offerings, and that can impact recruiting and retention.Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHDAWG
I agree, I think he'll be at GT for a while. I would guess he'll be there until and unless someone like Florida/Texas/Bama, etc. comes calling. He can win big at GT.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Totally agree - but if I was Collins I don't leave GA Tech for us unless the money is insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
He has got a great gig - and there is very little pressure. Moving to the SEC West now is just so damn hard. With A&M emerging the job is just so tough. I think more and more coaches are going to take the Cutcliffe approach. Find a basketball school or a school that doesn't take football that seriously - get them to be average to slightly above average and try and have a big year every 4-5 years. Schools like Indiana, Ga TEch, Duke, and Virginia are such great jobs right now. Modest success can equal a 10-15 year coaching gig. In the SEC that is unthinkable.
May just be my personal preference, but the idea of being able to build my program and have more than 2-3 years sounds appealing to me.
If I'm Stoops ... I probably never leave Ky. He keeps doing what he's doing there and he's set for life.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
The sec should let them back in.
Kick Mizzou out and take them back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead
Actually it was Mullen who criticized Collins for making a lateral move.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
And do know that was a bit of jealousy. Mullen was looking to leave at the end off 2014 as well.
There's no doubt he was jealous. No one in their right mind thinks MSU football and Florida are equalsQuote:
Originally Posted by gravedigger
I think part of it was jealousy. Some of it was frustration on Dan's part. He'd struggled for years to get consistency on the Defensive staff and side of the ball and Collins bails on him. Of course we know the rest of that story with Sirmon, Diaz and Grantham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I think GC has to prove himself as a coach this year. Shouldn't be hard improving in their record from this past year. Only thing with him is that he knows how tough it is in the SEC. Moorhead learned the hard way. I think that it would be tough pulling him over but I also think our ties to him could allow us to if it really did come to that.
On another note, isn't the assistant AD at GT a Mississippi State alumni?
After they struggle again in the ACC next year he'll be on no one's list. He was worse than Moorehead not adopting to his talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
One year isn't enough to determine if someone will work considering all the rules the NCAA gives with limiting the coaching of players. It's really difficult for a new coach to come in and have the players learn, run through, and really grasp the playbook in one year with the limited time they have now. However after a year of learning and playing, you should have a better view. I think that's one major reason a lot of people waited until this year to question Moorhead. That being said, I think we'll know how good GC can be next year by how much improvement his team makes.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I think he sucks- Straight up suuuucckss. But, the ACC is a joke, so he can be a middle of the pack coach at GT. He likes to recruit, that's the only positive with him. Again, wouldn't spit on him and he deserved every ass chewing he took from Dan Mullen.
GaTech ran the wishbone... talk about square peg round hole..Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
He is not a good coach. He is also not a bad good. Very great value-ish. Diaz on the other hand is a shit coach in over his head.
They ran the spread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ari Gold
They actually ran the flexbone.. which is still basically the wishbone or triple optionQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Far from the spread .. not even close
When they went in shotgun in the spring game the crowd gave a standing ovation
Like I said square peg / round hole