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Won't matter who our coach if this gets instituted - will take a minor miracle for any non-blue blood, huge alumni base school to succeed that's not in a major metro area.
EDIT - this is every bit the NCAA voting to keep themselves relevant and guarantee their status. It's not about the member institutions or the athletes.
So they can now pay above board and taxes will now have to be paid. I guess they could always still funnel it through a church like Cam Newton's dad was paid.
An Aubie told me they paid some of their guys with casino chips... ingenious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
So OM can’t cheat their way to the almost top anymore. Cool.
Guess this is the only way to get Texas, USC and ND strong again. Even Bama cant compete with these fan bases. So you want to go to Bama which has 3 million fans or Texas which has 40 million?
Probably hurt us more than them. You'll probably see the cannon motors rebel or the week or lawyer billboards with om playersQuote:
Originally Posted by dantheman4248
The way I see it is that the blue bloods will remain blue. Who really cares?
Possible upside for us is now the going rates to buy the leftovers is now more transparent. We either choose to play the game, or we don?t. But being good at doing things behind closed doors and out of NCAA sight is going to become a less valuable skill set.
And just like that...college football as an amateur sport came to an end.
yepQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The problem is when you have a player blow up and the transfer portal. Won't be long before you can transfer for any reason. So let's say Schrader had just gone bonkers and LSU has no heir apparent. LSU would just call him up and offer him all kind of endorsements if they wanted.
Yeah, I'm talking about worse case scenario, but you've got a ton of rich, hyper-competitive alumni at a bunch of these places.
Does this mean we get NCAA football back on Xbox?!
What's Bracky say?
This has been going on since cfb started. The only difference now is it won't be a violation and of course the government will now get a share since this will all be taxable now. Now the thing will be how much can you hide from the government so you won't have to pay taxes. The feds and the states just got a new revenue stream. I can see states with no state income tax becoming very popular for players.
I suspect they’ll limit this to a point. But bring on NCAA Football!!
The IRS will now actually try to go after the cash also. I always thought it was weird that the IRS wasn't involved when the FBI wire taps showed the big money being paid and all of it should have been taxable as a bonus of some kind. I guess they could have said it was a gift but there was something being paid for, ie. signing with their college of choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
I think some here are confusing “benefits” with what the ncaa just announced. Unless I am missing an angle, this is worse for MSU than losing out to the highest bidder.
Thank you Gavin Newsome and California. I hope you both die of a flesh eating bacteria of the asshole.
Yep I always thought it was weird as well. Don't think these laws are being passed just for the benefit of the players. This has been an untapped government revenue stream for a long long time. Hope I'm not venturing to much to the political sides of things, if I am mods please delete these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe
Bracky: "Time to update my resume."
This all I care about...^^Quote:
Originally Posted by defiantdog
I say wait a while before freaking out. Let's see what rules are put into place and what the federal government do with the internal revenue code.
Just because you didn’t hear about it in the news doesn’t mean the IRS didn’t come along after and access tax on those guys.
There is no new rules needed. The college kids will be taxed just like the pro guys are currently. If they don’t file and report it..... then see.... Wesley Snipes, Richard Hatch, The Situation... etc.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
That is probably the end of bigtime college sports. It won't affect the blue bloods, till the rest of us start dropping away. Then it will affect all but the bluest of the blue. The biggest winner is Notre Dame. In 20 years you will see a NCAA division one composed of about 25-30 schools for each major sport. The rest of the sports will slowly wither.
“Block fo yoself, mfer. You da one getting paid.”
Yep. I’m done.
I don't think so. It's possible this is the beginning of the end, but I really don't think it will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
Allowing players the ability to make money off their name and likeness was always the right move.
I guess we can offer baseball players endorsements now to make up for the 11.7? Cool.
If a player gets paid, then he should have to pay for going to school just like any other student.
You act like CTE, insurance, and a drastic reduction in youth participation reducing the talent pool isn't gonna already have this effect on CFB in the next 20-30 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
That's such a dumb ****ing statement. I was on a full ride to MSU and I worked in school too. Why can't athletes do the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
Pro sports have rules against meddling in other teams players when they are under contract. There's also rules on the books for contacting players on scholarship now. I don't think there's just gonna be programs calling up players on scholarship and upping the offer to get them to transfer and if there are, they should be placed on probation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
Y'all seriously think enough money is gonna fly around that this is some government conspiracy to generate another revenue stream? Cause I sure don't think so.
Well, at least now I don't have to care about whether Joe comes back in 2020, or who our next coach is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irondawg
I'm done with NCAA sports. What's the point?
I think it would have been big news if some college kid got a $5,000 to $10,000 IRS bill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
There's no legal or moral argument against it. The only argument is that it'll change things. But lots of the biggest wrongs in human history were perpetuated because it was just how it had always been and changing would require work, but that didn't mean we should've kept perpetuating the system instead of doing the right thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
Ok, since you obviously are superior, what is dumb about what I said? You know, just because you don't agree doesn't mean that the other person is dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
The SEC pretty much requires a football player to put in full time work year round. Players are essentially employees that also go to school. They also have the opportunity to have a life altering injury and the school just cut them loose afterwards. I didn't know that until recently. I read some articles talking about how a player had a knee injury and the only thing the school paid for was the actual surgery. All the rehab and everything else was on the student to pay for. That is one reason that Saban puts them on medical scholarships, they don't lose their insurance if they are pushed out. Scholarships are only good for one year so a player isn't guaranteed insurance or medical bills paid after that year.Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44
Why not leave out "That's such a dumb ****ing statement" and just say, "I was on a full ride to MSU and I worked in school too. Why can't athletes do the same?" You make the same point.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
Athletes should be able to make money off their likeness, they should be allowed to work a job, and/or they should get a decent stipend from the school, at least in the sports that make money for the schools.
Those seem like pretty obvious, common-sense things. Sure, it's a system that could be exploited, but any system can be. The NCAA's job is to police that and do the best they can to make sure money it isn't being taken advantage of.
From the NCAA's perspective, what is the difference between policing, 'Player A is not allowed to get any money,' and, 'Player A is only allowed to get ____ money'?
I do not see any feasible system for paying players according to the 'value' they each bring to the school. I see no possible way some sort of free market system would work, and I see no possible way for a school to set a different value on each player. The superstars will still end up earning more by profiting off their likeness.
Feel free to logically back it up. Why shouldn't academic scholarships be taxed too then? Would they only be taxed if the academic recipient took a job on the side? Just ****ing think about it for a second instead of getting wound up that folks putting 3-5 years of their lives and basically full time work hours into a sport that produces hundreds of millions of dollars are finally going to be rightfully able to make a little money off it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AROB44