How many ifs?

How many if statements does it take for us to make the cfp?

If Tommy Stevens turns out to be a top 3 round talent...
If a second DT steps up to provide SEC level play alongside Autry...
If the team stays healthy...

If others aspects turn out status quo, or as expected, how many if statements does it take for us to reasonably be a contender. How far away are we, really, from a magical season like the AU 2010 season?

Might not be as far away as it seems. Also, the line between 8-4 and cfp could be pretty, pretty thin.

We've gone 8-4 five times since 2010. Not once was one of those teams close to the CFB playoff

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Originally Posted by Walkerhill

How many if statements does it take for us to make the cfp?

If Tommy Stevens turns out to be a top 3 round talent...
If a second DT steps up to provide SEC level play alongside Autry...
If the team stays healthy...

If others aspects turn out status quo, or as expected, how many if statements does it take for us to reasonably be a contender. How far away are we, really, from a magical season like the AU 2010 season?

Might not be as far away as it seems. Also, the line between 8-4 and cfp could be pretty, pretty thin.

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The only IF, imo, is Stevens. IF Stevens plays at a DAK level, we will repeat what we did and have a chance to make the CFP.

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Originally Posted by Walkerhill

How many if statements does it take for us to make the cfp?

If Tommy Stevens turns out to be a top 3 round talent...
If a second DT steps up to provide SEC level play alongside Autry...
If the team stays healthy...

If others aspects turn out status quo, or as expected, how many if statements does it take for us to reasonably be a contender. How far away are we, really, from a magical season like the AU 2010 season?

Might not be as far away as it seems. Also, the line between 8-4 and cfp could be pretty, pretty thin.

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All these and we need some margin for error.

Need Bama to lose a game or two.

I don't think you design a 12-0 scenario for MSU, but maybe, if you're dreaming, 10-2 is a remote possibility. So things have to lineup where 10-2 wins the division.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

We've gone 8-4 five times since 2010. Not once was one of those teams close to the CFB playoff

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.... yes we were. The Dak run was very close. we went 10-2 in regular play. We played at bama and lost by 5. Dak had a bad game and Mullen had a worse game. Very winnable game and that win would have put the #1 team in the nation in the playoff

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Originally Posted by Coach007

.... yes we were. The Dak run was very close. we went 10-2 in regular play. We played at bama and lost by 5. Dak had a bad game and Mullen had a worse game. Very winnable game and that win would have put the #1 team in the nation in the playoff

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Uhhh, that team was 10-2, not 8-4

ETA... 8-4 teams: 2010, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2018

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Originally Posted by Walkerhill

How many if statements does it take for us to make the cfp?

If Tommy Stevens turns out to be a top 3 round talent...
If a second DT steps up to provide SEC level play alongside Autry...
If the team stays healthy...

If others aspects turn out status quo, or as expected, how many if statements does it take for us to reasonably be a contender. How far away are we, really, from a magical season like the AU 2010 season?

Might not be as far away as it seems. Also, the line between 8-4 and cfp could be pretty, pretty thin.

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There aren't enough ifs to get us to the cfp. We have a better chance of going 6-6.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

The only IF, imo, is Stevens. IF Stevens plays at a DAK level, we will repeat what we did and have a chance to make the CFP.

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So I guy who hasNEVER been a starter needs to be as good as dak, gotcha. That ain't happening and if it did, we still won't make it.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Uhhh, that team was 10-2, not 8-4

ETA... 8-4 teams: 2010, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2018

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Dak was way worse than dan that day. Not close.sorry wrong quote

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Originally Posted by Coach007

.... yes we were. The Dak run was very close. we went 10-2 in regular play. We played at bama and lost by 5. Dak had a bad game and Mullen had a worse game. Very winnable game and that win would have put the #1 team in the nation in the playoff

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Dak was way worse than dan was that day. Not close.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

There aren't enough ifs to get us to the cfp. We have a better chance of going 6-6.

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LMAO!



WOW!

If my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle.

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Originally Posted by RezDog7

If my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle.

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Not 100% true in today's world...



Just saying

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Originally Posted by Coach007

LMAO!



WOW!

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Bookmark this then. To go to the playoff we have to, at worst be 11-1. I'll stand by what I said

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Originally Posted by Coach007

.... yes we were. The Dak run was very close. we went 10-2 in regular play. We played at bama and lost by 5. Dak had a bad game and Mullen had a worse game. Very winnable game and that win would have put the #1 team in the nation in the playoff

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Not all 5 point losses are equal. We scored a garbage TD to cut it to 5 at the end of the game. That season had a surreal feeling for me when we were #1 and as usual couldn't finish the job against bama or UM.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

There aren't enough ifs to get us to the cfp. We have a better chance of going 6-6.

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If we go 6-6, someone needs to go. 6-6 is 4 OOC cupcake wins and 2-6 in the SEC, totally unacceptable for any coach at this point in our program. Really, just which two SEC "powerhouses" do we beat to give us that great record? I'll wait. Hail State!

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Not 100% true in today's world...

Just saying

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You beat me to it. I guess she didn't tell her nephew about the operation...…..

We have four games to work on the "ifs". Our season hinges on Auburn on the road. We win that one and we could have a special season.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We have four games to work on the "ifs". Our season hinges on Auburn on the road. We win that one and we could have a special season.

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It hinges on LSU at home IMO. If we lose on the plains nobody should be crying about it. We will have a punchers chance but just remember the last time we went there with a good team we got beat like a red headed step child and got screwed out of a game changing play early in the first. Idk if Barn will be as good this year as they were then (beat Bama and UGA) but they wont be a bad team by any stretch. They are not that good up front so our DL will have a chance to get off to a good start in the league. I think they bring back a chunk of starters on that OL from last year that wasnt very good.

LSU at home is certainly winnable, a win there and I think the season goes from good to great. Davis Wade will be quite a scene that night. They cant throw it and Shoop will be ready to tee off on them with no threat of a real passing game. Even if they had one I feel pretty good with Dantzler and Smitherman. Offensively against them will be a struggle again if we cant throw it at all. Power read and inside zone will only take you so far against good defenses.

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

There aren't enough ifs to get us to the cfp. We have a better chance of going 6-6.

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I can't argue with this. Odds say 7-8 wins. Which is closer to 6 than 11.

Tommy Stevens would have to play at a Dak level and a wide receiver would have to step up in a major way. It would be considered one of the biggest underdog stories in sports for us to make the CFB playoff this year. 10-2 is the ceiling with this team and that's not getting us into the CFB playoff. Alabama is not losing 2 games with their schedule.

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Originally Posted by Jarius

Tommy Stevens would have to play at a Dak level and a wide receiver would have to step up in a major way. It would be considered one of the biggest underdog stories in sports for us to make the CFB playoff this year. 10-2 is the ceiling with this team and that's not getting us into the CFB playoff. Alabama is not losing 2 games with their schedule.

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Stevens would have to surpass dak level, 2010 cam newton level

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Stevens would have to surpass dak level, 2010 cam newton level

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Nah. His defense will be much better than Dak's was in 14 and his schedule has the toughest 2 teams at home instead of the road. That being said, he will not be anywhere near Dak level 2014 because A) he isn't that good and B) his receivers won't be on 14's level.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Stevens would have to surpass dak level, 2010 cam newton level

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Nah. Stevens has a better defense, OL, & RB than Dak did

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Nah. Stevens has a better defense, OL, & RB than Dak did

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S&P+ looks at the 2014 defense much different than you guys and the traditional stats. They have it at #26, which would be the 4th best we've had since 2009. I didn't particularly like the strategy, but I think Mullen knew he had a great offense so just wanted to hold teams to FGs

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Originally Posted by msstate7

S&P+ looks at the 2014 defense much different than you guys and the traditional stats. They have it at #26, which would be the 4th best we've had since 2009. I didn't particularly like the strategy, but I think Mullen knew he had a great offense so just wanted to hold teams to FGs

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The S&P looks at the 2019 defense for state and predicts it to be #2 in the country.....so if you're going to use that then use it for both. If we could magically import 2014 Dak and 2014 receivers we would have a legit shot at the playoffs. We don't though so it won't matter.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Uhhh, that team was 10-2, not 8-4

ETA... 8-4 teams: 2010, 2012, 2015, 2017, 2018

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I had to read it three time until I understood what you were saying. Sometimes it's not what you say it's how.

There are too many to list. Anything over 6-7 wins is gravy this year.

Ahhhh, the limitless nature of preseason college football optimism never ceases to amaze me.

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Originally Posted by smootness

Ahhhh, the limitless nature of preseason college football optimism never ceases to amaze me.

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Better load up on Stevens winning heisman and us winning sec**

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Originally Posted by Walkerhill

How many if statements does it take for us to make the cfp?

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A lot

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Originally Posted by Jarius

The S&P looks at the 2019 defense for state and predicts it to be #2 in the country.....so if you're going to use that then use it for both. If we could magically import 2014 Dak and 2014 receivers we would have a legit shot at the playoffs. We don't though so it won't matter.

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I think any conversation about the playoffs with this team is quite ridiculous, but 10 wins would be a lofty, yet attainable goal. And if you have a top 30 defense AND offense, your chances at winning 10 games go through the roof. The average number of wins of teams that had that profile in 2018 was 11.

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

If we go 6-6, someone needs to go. 6-6 is 4 OOC cupcake wins and 2-6 in the SEC, totally unacceptable for any coach at this point in our program. Really, just which two SEC "powerhouses" do we beat to give us that great record? I'll wait. Hail State!

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USM isn?t a cupcake. We should win the game but... we better have our sh.... together. Auburn has a solid OL and DL. If they can get any production out their QB.. they?ll be a tough tough out. Same for aTm on the road with a veteran QB returning. ThenLSU and Bama at home.

Anything north of 6-6 and our coaching staff did a great job.

IF Joe learns how to run a QB sneak on 4th and 1.

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Originally Posted by Walkerhill

How many if statements does it take for us to make the cfp?

If Tommy Stevens turns out to be a top 3 round talent...
If a second DT steps up to provide SEC level play alongside Autry...
If the team stays healthy...

If others aspects turn out status quo, or as expected, how many if statements does it take for us to reasonably be a contender. How far away are we, really, from a magical season like the AU 2010 season?

Might not be as far away as it seems. Also, the line between 8-4 and cfp could be pretty, pretty thin.

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Ah the preseason. When slightly above average teams turn into championship teams. Haha

IF everything goes right, this is a 9-3 team. 10-2 at absolute best. We can go 8-4 if some things go right. Gun to my head, we're going 7-5. 8-4 next likely, 6-6 next likely.

Do we not learn anything from year to year? And some of yall are still going to be pissed when we finish 8-4 with 8-4 type talent.

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Originally Posted by BB30

Do we not learn anything from year to year? And some of yall are still going to be pissed when we finish 8-4 with 8-4 type talent.

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8-4 should be the realistic goal for this team. I'll be content with 7-5

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Originally Posted by BB30

Do we not learn anything from year to year? And some of yall are still going to be pissed when we finish 8-4 with 8-4 type talent.

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That's the thing. Last year was NOT 8-4 talent. This year it is. Hopefully coaching doesn't drag us down a couple of games again.

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

That's the thing. Last year was NOT 8-4 talent. This year it is. Hopefully coaching doesn't drag us down a couple of games again.

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Yes it was, you just sized up your ring too early.