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Vic is a good coach but the last 3 years he has had a dominant player
Victoria than T. One year we had two and probably should have won it all.
The point is it ain?t coaching its players
I don?t think we have a dominant player on the roster
May have to settle for a few steps back for the next few years
As good as T is/was, I think Vic will win his first Title when he has an athletic Center that can run the court and move quicker.
Last year was our year to win as we did actually have the best team in the country. Will be surprised if we ever win one now because its just hard to get back to that level and have everything go your way. VV and Big T were 5 star recruits no matter what the recruiting sites said.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
We'll be back
All Vic had to do was switch to a zone defense. He was outcoached
They shoot like 40% from 3, made 13 today....not sure zone was the answer, especially when we've never run oneQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Bibby,
Espinoza-Hunter
Carter
Precious Taylor
Scott
Rickea Jackson
Jayla Hemingway
JaMya Young
We have 1 McDonalds AA in Rickea Jackson and 4 other incoming players nominated for McDonalds AA....Vic is also getting closer on 6-7 5 Star Kamillo Cardosa for next years signing class.
I think Vic will be okay. I think the run will continue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
Those are good players and no mistake
We will certainly be a competitive tourney team
But ask Dawn Staley how easy it is to be a dominant team without a dominant player
Everyone of the final 8 this year has one
Zone was definitely the answer. One player literally beat us. There is no way a team shouldn't know how/or only play one style of defense. Zone would have changed the total complexity or at least slowed down #20.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
I'm not sure how this stacks up, but South Carolina is dominating in recruiting. Have you seen their signing class for next year?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked
http://www.espn.com/high-school/girl...579/class/2019
They have 4 5* players signed. Not sure if they'll be able to get the most out of these players, or how reliable women's basketball recruiting rankings are - but I'm sure these four kids have athletic ability regardless of whether Staley can coach them or not.
I disagree. One player did not beat us. Plus we don't know how to play zone. They shoot incredibly as a team and they would have tons of wide open 3's vs a zone. A zone would have made it a worse loss in my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Yep. That was my point in the game thread. They had a two for which is great perimeter shooting with the pick and roll. If Cal ever recruiter lights out perimeter shooters his team would be unstoppable every year with his pick and roll offense. Only way to beat a team like Oregon is to full court press them and make them not able to get in their half court offense. We aren’t built like that and therefore they were a bad matchup with us. Some teams are just a bad matchup for you and it’s just hard to overcome it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Rickea Jackson will be better than Victoria
Ha. You need to spend some more time studying before getting your sports analyst degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrows2
In two years Vic will have four 5 star players positions 1-4, Chloe Bibby, 6’5 Promise Taylor, & Breamber Scott. The players are light years more talented than what Vic took to 2 final fours. I’m not following the argument that we have been good because of players not coaching but we are gonna be worse with better players?
Just stop it
T was SEC player of the year and Victoria was the eighth overall pick in the WNBA draft
But Vic will have players “light years” better?
I can’t have a serious sports discussion with yoy
I think the one thing what we were missing that could have taken us all the way is Jazz and Danbury being shooting threats from 3. That's the only negative I can say about those 2
With how Vic wants to play I think you are correct. People forget what a project T was. Coaches did an amazing job turning her into the dominant player she became.
yoy are right about that. Keep studying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrows2
Oh look another thread showing that he is in fact posting from another site. look at all of the "?" he has in his copy and paste.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrows2
We have a new poster(in and of itself is not a tell all) posting negative comments about a coach who has taken out girls from pretty much zero to one of the most feared teams in the NCAA and he is TRASH talking him.
Coaches don’t turn someone into a dominant player at best they help a player achieve their potential
Coaches mistake diamonds for lumps of coal sometimes but they never actually turn a lump of coal into a diamond
If they could then Saban and Gino are spending way too much time and travel on recruiting
Vic's gonna win because he's a winner. He took a program that had never accomplished anything to where it is nationally respected and feared. Of all our teams I worry not about our women's basketball team being a winner. It's a culture here now.
So you loose twice against them playing the same way? Gotcha. That's great coaching indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Did I say that? No. I have been preaching that he needed to change the way he defended the pick and roll/high ball screen....I'm just saying a zone was not the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
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Originally Posted by Sparrows2
We lost 4 starters from last year, and had a starter injured and out for the season this year,and we still went 33-3 and playing a team, in the Elite 8 Final, in a hostile environment that was clicking on all cylinders. We were 5 points away from going back to the Final Four. Add to that two SEC Championships (Regular season and Tourney). So I would say that is some pretty good coaching.
I agree Commerce. Good post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Well, it was proven over 70 minutes of game time with Oregon that with our defense they basically score at will. Vic didn't even try anything differently. On top of that, we ran our girls full court every possession. May want to save some legs in a tourney setting. Specially against a team not as good like ASU.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Look Vic has played for the SEC tourney championship for like 4 years in a row. Went to the womens finals twi times in a row, so no doubt he is good. Maybe he didnt change cause he knew Oregon was going to light us up on 3. Maybe people had to leave their person at the 3 line cause number 20 would have taken us off the dribble every time. Maybe he knew putting the freshmen pg out there to hit some threes and keep 3 people off of T wasn't going to work. Who knows. Loved this team, but when you run into a team that has you number......well its over.
GotchaQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
This is a new poster who is going to other sites to down our coaches and programsQuote:
Originally Posted by yjnkdawg
Vic is a good coach period. Name me any coach that has won it that didn't have several dominant players. People need to understand, sometimes theirs are better than yours and that's exactly what you saw today. I agree we need size and be more athletic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparrows2
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Originally Posted by Bodaski
Oregon was running on all cylinders today and Ionescu was the orchestrator of their offense.
The recruiting sites said they were 5 star playersQuote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Vic will win a NC here as long as he stays. He's a good recruiter and evaluator of talent, he's a great motivator, and he has one of the few fanbases in WBB that will support him and sell out games.
You say he won't have a star player? Watch Rickea Jackson in a few years and then come talk.
Great post!Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
man I'm glad the women's team didn't lay an egg early on like the baseball team just did. Some these folk need keep thoughts inside but I guess yapping makes one feel more important.
Most of the time the best team wins, especially playing in the familiar surroundings. The Ducks were and are the better overall team. They have good size, quickness, very athletic ball handlers and good shooters. Yes we would have a better chance in Starkville, but regardless if they shoot 13-26 from the 3 point line and shoot free throws like they do it would still be close and IFFY.
IF there is one mistake I see in what Vic does in Coaching doesn't have to do with x and o's, it's his style of hard nose practice that drives players but can also wear them down physically and mentally. I do think the last 4 or 5 minutes we looked a little physically leg weary and mentally fatigued. We had a few lapses that we don't usually do. You can disagree as I may be wrong, but I know from experience one time in my Coaching basketball, I had a team that should have won State. I look back on it now many years later realizing I over worked my team and down the stretch we couldn't make plays that we normally did. I think we had a little lack of depth needed, losing Bibby was huge from outside shooting and depth. We only had one or two players coming off the bench who helped with scoring.
I think Vic will look to be more athletic in the future, will get better or more shooters and we will be more athletic like UConn, ND and the Ducks. We were the "power team" in the Elite 8, Baylor is close but they may be a little more athletic.
We played a ton of basketball starting with going overseas and the many hard nose practices.
It's Vic's style, I don't really have any problems with the way he Coaches and disciplines the players and teams. He is one of the top Coaches in America.
I watched the Ducks play the Jack Rabbits. they scored 63 points.. Are the jack Rabbits better on defense than Us? The Ducks were 4 for 20 from the 3. One thing the Jack Rabbits did was not let SI do it all. You have to stop her dribble drive or stop Her 3 point shooting. We let Her do what every She wanted. We wore our player out by pressing and it was not effective. Should have stopped. I'm really disappointed Vic made zero adjustments.
BingoQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24