the depressing image below captures why we won't anytime soon.
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the depressing image below captures why we won't anytime soon.
https://i.postimg.cc/g0RjWZ9y/Recruit-Rankings.png
There is a good chance we will have around 10 four star recruits like LSU has right now by February. The real reason why we won't win the SEC West for the foreseeable future is because of Saban and the SEC protecting Alabama over all others. Once he leaves we will have a chance again. Same could be said for everyone else too.
The exposure from tv has allowed State and similar situated P5 schools to distance itself it terms of talent from the G5 conference teams. However the Exposure of TV has created an even larger gap in terms of talent between the haves and have nots within the P5 conferences.
LSU and TAMU have the same issues. Excellent recruiting and mediocre coaching. They dont scare me.
The only way is...
1. Catch Bama on a down year
2. Mississippi produce a ton of talent over a 2-3 year span, and we keep it home.
3. Have a special qb
Jimbo has a natty. Ed O took a worse team than Moorhead and got a NY6 bowl with a tougher schedule. Why do you think we have better coaching?Quote:
Originally Posted by bobcat91
You need an elite dual threat qb (think at least dak) and at least a 2010 caliber defense. And get Bama at home.
I would argue we have closed the Bama gap a good bit over the last two years.
I'm not quite as bullish on A&M as you, but I'm not far behind... Jimbo is fixin' to give AU & LSU problems, IMO....Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That's really what I see jimbo being at aTm... an annual #2 in west contender with NY6 bowls year-in, year-out. If he hits on another Winston, maybe he beats saban one yearQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
I really only fear one on that list.
Jimbo ran FSU in the ground. He is up and down.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'll take Joe over O every day. O has proven to be an 8-4, 9-3 coach at LSU, and he is completely dependent on Aranda
Wasn't this Coach O third season or 2.5 seasons? Also I would say he inherited more talent then Moorhead based on recruiting rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
A&M is top 10 every year. Yet we own them. We've been pretty even with LSU the last few years too. AL and UGA run the league though. Everybody else is going to stay behind them.
Urban meyer's last year at Florida was 7-5 with a loss at home to Mullen. He went to Ohio st and 82-9. I think you guys putting way too much stock in a down year last season for jimbo. Anyone that would take Moorhead over jimbo is a homerQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Yeah jimbo is more like Malzahn than Saban/Meyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
If O had a defense as mediocre as his offense he would have finished 6-6. O is a defensive guy first and will never have a high octane offense at LSU.
Jimbo is a 9-3 coach in the SEC with a 10-2 every third year. If we walk into Aggie Land and beat them next year I can guarantee y'all Jimbo will never win the West.
When Moorhead gets his style of offense going with his players, look out. As long as Saban is king it will be Joe, O and Jimbo fighting for 2 and 3. (Auburn is just lost in the wilderness right now.)
Joe outcoached him this year lol. See how the future plays out for both.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Jimbo is not a good guy. I wouldn?t not want him at State. Jimbo is a known cheater as well and if he starts beating Bama on the regular, the SEC will bury that program. Texas talent is so well developed that kids get to college with not a whole lot of room to grow. Southern kids a lot of times are raw and have a much higher ceiling. aTm will be better but I don?t see them becoming Alabama.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Jimbo is a snake oil salesman. He's sleazy as hell. He'll be better than what A&M had, but he's not some savior.
He's a good coach for sure. Elite wjen he has the best talent. Look at 2010, 2011, and 2018. The only 3 years he didn't have better talent in every game he coached. He was an 8-4 coach those years.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He took a step in the direction he needs to go today then. This was most likely the only year Moorhead will have more talent than jimboQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
According to recruiting rankings he had more talent this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I'll trust NFL GMs moreQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
ETA... they've lost some guys to transfer that helped bolster their recruiting rankings too. They lost a decent QB to Oklahoma
Don't move the goalposts. You started a thread using recruiting rankings and equating it to talent. When Commerce provides information that A&M had more talent this year, and you then want to trust NFL GMs?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Jimbo is trash and we've owned them. They'll be more consistent under him then they were under Sumlin, but they aren't about to become some superpower.
So you don't believe in accuracy of recruiting rankings either?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Jimbo a good coach, sleazy as heck but good, but he's not the next Saban/MeyerQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
this was as of October: https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Fo...Conference=SECQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
People only believe in rankings when it fits their agendas lolQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
1 5 star each but am with 40% more 4 stars, 34-21.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
About the aTm always recruits this level... here's the number of players they've signed at 96 rating or higher since 2015...
'19 = 6
'18 = 1
'17 = 2
'16 = 1
'15 = 3 (kyler Murray transferred)
Taking into account Murray left, jimbo signed as many 96 rated players this season as the previous 4 years combined. This is not their normal level, but whatever you guys wanna believe
Please stop bringing valid,sourced information! It does no good to provide facts when feelings and opinions are the only requirements...Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
But we really won't know until the draft 4 or 5 years from now right? When nfl decides lolQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It is better for sure. He has Aggie top 5 whereas they were a 4 year composite of 15 this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
But the point is they were a composite of 15 and we were at 25, yet you stated we had more talent this season. Thus, you don't believe in the accuracy of those recruiting rankings.
7 is on Jimbo's jock. Ya'll let me know when A&M handles Bama. Then I'll listen.
The only reason jimbo isn't in a NY6 bowl this season is bc he played Clemson. Trade Clemson for Kansas st, and aTm finishes 9-3 (5-3). They already finished higher in the standings with what will be jimbo's least talented team for the foreseeable future
And they lost to us.
I've said consistently they won't. What they'll do is push us to 7-5/8-4 instead of 8-4/9-3Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
You think we win there next season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Touche!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
We lost to Florida. Mullen is better than Moorhead, right? We lost to Kentucky. Stoops > Moorhead. Ed O > Moorhead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot