If Fitz leads us to ATL this year and a 10+ win season will his legacy at QB surpass Daks? Would he have to win it? Or is that mountain to tall for him to climb?
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If Fitz leads us to ATL this year and a 10+ win season will his legacy at QB surpass Daks? Would he have to win it? Or is that mountain to tall for him to climb?
If he gets us to Atlanta by beating bama at bama, he passes dak imo.
I agree. Dak had the privilege of being that first special guy in a long time, or it wouldn't even be a question.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
If we go to ATL he is better than Dak.
He is vastly more talented than Dak but can he develop between his ears and intangibles as strong as Dak was? If he does he might go to NY
Looking at Bama's schedule. Damn. It's almost unfair. They will go 12-0 unless we upset them. If only the game was at DWS.
Regardless if he he beats Bama or not, IF we go to the SEC Championship, he definitely surpasses Dak. That being said, if we don’t beat Bama and that’s our only loss, I see NO WAY Bama losses two games with that schedule.
Yes. And he needs to beat Ole Miss this year too while he is at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stalkingpoon
This is correct. The only/biggest threats I see are:Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
AU
@LSU
MSU
it’s as horrible an SOS slate we could get, IMO.
Dak was more accurate and threw a better ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
That imo makes Dak more talented
Dak also had receivers that were more talented.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
If you think Dak Prescott has the arm talent Nick Fitzgerald has I cant help you. Dak doesnt have a bad arm but Fitz has a cannon.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I remember Daks JR year people on here bitched about his completion percentage and then his SR year it went way up. Give Fitz that time before you jump the gun.
Dak isnt as big, isnt as fast, isnt as strong. That is talent. Dak is/was a lot better in between the ears and intangibles. Fitz has one more year to improve there. And he will
Win the West or the Heisman or get us into the Playoff. Otherwise Dak stays #1
Dak will be tough to top. Dak in the 2013 egg bowl will be something I will tell my grandkids aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Dak just surviving the '15 Bammer Game in Vegas was one of the most impressive things I've seen... That cat was legit in every "toughness" metric...Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
LSU's Mett had a similar game back in the day.
Sorry but Fitz isn't stronger than Dak. He's a lot faster than him though. Toughness I am giving them a push. Fitz has a stronger arm but Dak has better touch. Pretty evenly matched QBs really. Dak was the dude though no questions asked. It was his team. I'm not knocking Fitz here but Dak was and is an elite leader. Fitz will have to surpass Dak's #1 national ranking achievement to be considered better all-time. Only way he does that is by beating Bama and taking us to Atlanta or getting us in the playoff. He doesn't have to get us ranked #1 necessarily but get us to Atlanta and/or get us in the playoff and he'll surpass Dak.
If getting to Atlanta is a criteria, Wayne Madkin is apparently better than Dak? LOL
I think Fitz would have to win the SEC to surpass Dak, because Dak took us to uncharted territory: #1. So Fitz would need to do the same: SEC championship (which would mean CFP too).
There's a lot to overcome if someone wants to surpass Dak in the eyes of the fans because the guy was basically the first rock star football player we've had, then he goes to the NFL and wins rookie of the year (creating tons of new Cowboys fans in Mississippi) and then every time we turn around he's cheerleading for all our sports - not just football. He is our boy, and that will probably never change. But if Fitz could win the SEC he's probably be considered the greatest Bulldog on the field.
I think we define "arm talent" differently.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I define it as the combination of touch, arm strength, accuracy, & quick release. Of those 4 components, Fitz only has 1 that is better than Dak
Right, but everything but "arm strength" can be taught to some extent. Those are skills. Talent is what a QB is naturally given... And Fitz with his 2 extra inches and big arm has more talent than Dak, though you're 100% right Dak is the better passer because of the skills. But Fitz has the tools to be better, it's unlikely but it's a possibilityQuote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Keep in mind that Fitz is still relatively inexperienced as a QB compared to where Dak was at this same point. Dak was a QB and had 510 attempted throws his Jr. & Sr. years in high school. Fitz played WR in a traditional Triple-Option offense until his SR. year, and then only threw the ball 76 times the whole season. It's amazing that Fitz has been able to progress as far as he has on the real limited amount of experience he has.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
I think he makes a big leap this season on the QB metrics.
If Fitz takes us to the SEC championship, that pretty much means we beat Bama in Tuscaloosa and at worst lose one game in conference. If that doesn't put us at number one, it will be right there and the only reason Fitz will not have surpassed Dak is that Dak built upon his legacy with his NFL rookie campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matty Dispatch
I'll still take Wayne's 1999 season over Dak's 2014. And honestly- 1998 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Give Dak the SEC West competition at that time and our 2014 team probably blows out everyone in the divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I forgot about how bad he got the crap beat out of him that game. Dak was tough beyond doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
I love Nick. He’s a straight up warrior. But there’ll only ever be one Dak. And Fitz would tell you that.
What are you smoking?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg